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Old 06-21-2010, 08:58 PM   #271
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With all of the campaign funds going to true-blue Americans like Mr. Barton they really shouldn't be held accountable for any of this, poor bastards.
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BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.
Oh wait, you said "true-blue Americans." Never mind.
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thanks for showing us that Obama isn't a bought-and-sold politician.

the president stepped up for the American people -- regardless of who writes him campaign checks -- and knocked out a minimum of $20bn.

contrast this to the Republican party, who feel just awful for poor BP. Obama is on the side of the fishermen of the Gulf; the Republicans are on the side of the oil companies.

this, indeed, is Change We Can Believe in.
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:22 PM   #273
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Tonight, we pray for that courage. We pray for the people of the Gulf. And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm towards a brighter day. Thank you, God Bless You, and may God Bless the United States of America.
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Seems the president and the governor agree.
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a hand capable of shaking down bitch-slapping $20b out of BP! boo-yah!
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I just have two questions regarding the whole "praying" thing: If God can apparently fix this problem, why didn't God to stop it to begin with? Eleven people died as a result of that explosion, why would God allow that?

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Seems the president and the governor agree.
Obama's asking for spiritual guidance to help the people who are struggling get through the coming days, a means of comfort to those who are suffering this mess directly. He's not literally looking to God to magically get rid of the oil itself or whatever. Sarah, on the other hand, comes off as suggesting that in her Twitter response. Even if she doesn't mean it that way, that's what it sounds like.

Keep in mind, people, this is the same woman who, on tape, was shown to be getting some sort of biblical cleansing of evil or something to that effect.

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I just have two questions regarding the whole "praying" thing: If God can apparently fix this problem, why didn't God to stop it to begin with? Eleven people died as a result of that explosion, why would God allow that?



Obama's asking for spiritual guidance to help the people who are struggling get through the coming days, a means of comfort to those who are suffering this mess directly. He's not literally looking to God to magically get rid of the oil itself or whatever. Sarah, on the other hand, comes off as suggesting that in her Twitter response. Even if she doesn't mean it that way, that's what it sounds like.

Keep in mind, people, this is the same woman who, on tape, was shown to be getting some sort of biblical cleansing of evil or something to that effect.

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Never put anything past ol' Sarah.

Grade A nutjob by any objective standard.

Too bad the biblical cleansing never gave her that crucial thing in life known as a brain.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:36 AM   #277
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a hand capable of shaking down bitch-slapping $20b out of BP! boo-yah!
You really should read up on the whole tyranny thing.

How about letting our laws and courts take care of BP and leave the government shaking down bitch-slapping corporations to the countries without a constitution that limits the powers of the federal government and president.

BP isn't owed an apology but maybe a little due process is in order.
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due process
what are miranda rights?

but that's another issue for another day
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Last I checked the Constitution, corporations aren't citizens (we'll see what the Supreme Court finally says though).
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You really should read up on the whole tyranny thing.

How about letting our laws and courts take care of BP and leave the government shaking down bitch-slapping corporations to the countries without a constitution that limits the powers of the federal government and president.

BP isn't owed an apology but maybe a little due process is in order.
So wait you do feel bad for BP having to ante up the 20 billion?

The people in Alaska are still waiting to this day for the "laws and courts and due process" to catch up with Exxon/Mobil.

GREAT POST

One more point, if you read my earlier posts I prolly was the most critical of Obama, all of these politicians are in the pockets of big business and they need to shown the door - EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.
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You really should read up on the whole tyranny thing.

How about letting our laws and courts take care of BP and leave the government shaking down bitch-slapping corporations to the countries without a constitution that limits the powers of the federal government and president.

BP isn't owed an apology but maybe a little due process is in order.
This is quite fresh coming from someone who fought so hard to defend a newly defined term just so that the constitution wouldn't have to be applied to the people he thought should be tortured. But now you like the constitution again and you want it applied to corporations? Hilarity all around
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You really should read up on the whole tyranny thing.

How about letting our laws and courts take care of BP and leave the government shaking down bitch-slapping corporations to the countries without a constitution that limits the powers of the federal government and president.

BP isn't owed an apology but maybe a little due process is in order.



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here's some mainstream GOP thought -- that Obama is Hitler and that BP are the real victims here, and that government tyranny is measured by crimes against corporations and not torture or extraordinary rendition.


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When Adolf Hitler was building up the Nazi movement in the 1920s, leading up to his taking power in the 1930s, he deliberately sought to activate people who did not normally pay much attention to politics.

Such people were a valuable addition to his political base, since they were particularly susceptible to Hitler's rhetoric and had far less basis for questioning his assumptions or his conclusions.

"Useful idiots" was the term supposedly coined by V.I. Lenin to describe similarly unthinking supporters of his dictatorship in the Soviet Union.

Put differently, a democracy needs informed citizens if it is to thrive, or ultimately even survive.

In our times, American democracy is being dismantled, piece by piece, before our very eyes by the current administration in Washington, and few people seem to be concerned about it.

The president's poll numbers are going down because increasing numbers of people disagree with particular policies of his, but the damage being done to the fundamental structure of this nation goes far beyond particular counterproductive policies.

Just where in the Constitution of the United States does it say that a president has the authority to extract vast sums of money from a private enterprise and distribute it as he sees fit to whomever he deems worthy of compensation? Nowhere.

And yet that is precisely what is happening with a $20 billion fund to be provided by BP to compensate people harmed by their oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Many among the public and in the media may think that the issue is simply whether BP's oil spill has damaged many people, who ought to be compensated.

But our government is supposed to be "a government of laws and not of men."

If our laws and our institutions determine that BP ought to pay $20 billion — or $50 billion or $100 billion — then so be it.

But the Constitution says that private property is not to be confiscated by the government without "due process of law."

Technically, it has not been confiscated by Barack Obama, but that is a distinction without a difference.

With vastly expanded powers of government available at the discretion of politicians and bureaucrats, private individuals and organizations can be forced into accepting the imposition of powers that were never granted to the government by the Constitution.

If you believe that the end justifies the means, then you don't believe in constitutional government.

Is U.S. Now On Slippery Slope To Tyranny? - IBD - Investors.com
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Oh, NOW we're on a slippery slope...

These fuckers crack me up, their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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I don't understand this at all....just how much oil WAS there in that rig that's causing it to leak for over 60 days!! isn't it goint to dry up by itself? I mean, there's not an unlimited supply of oil down there, is there?

Why isn't it drying up by itself?
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