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Old 06-25-2010, 09:47 AM   #16
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Here's the thing: I have no particular view about Gillard, and thought Rudd was competent enough, not even close to disastrous. A 24-hour palace coup in the first term of a prime ministership, ahead of an election they were probably going to win fairly comfortably (recent shock-horror polls notwithstanding) is just seriously weird territory. It's the sort of stuff Hunter Thompson would write about.

I could chime in with some comment about Australians not knowing how lucky we have it (thinking here about the world recession etc etc), but frankly the general public had little to do with this. In fact, the party caucus of the freaking ALP apparently had little to do with this.

We shall see, I guess.
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:50 AM   #17
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The Afghanistan commitment is bipartisan btw. Just one of those things that come with the alliance. Do not expect any mainstream political leader to disavow it. Ever.

Or to put it another way, it's for the US to end. We are merely humble partners.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:28 PM   #18
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Or to put it another way, it's for the US to end. We are merely humble partners.
At the rate we're going, you're going to be humble partners for a long time to come, perhaps . We have a really hard time "ending" wars.

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Old 06-25-2010, 07:55 PM   #19
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Yairs, well, them's the breaks.

Look, domestically, for better or for worse, in a country like Australia this just does not have the presence in the public consciousness that something like Vietnam did. Our commitment appears to be mainly specialist military and their precise activities a little vague. Oh there have been Australian casualities (between 10 and 20), and as they climb the mood may well sour. But it is not on even close to the scale of past wars. Which is to explain, not condone.
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a welshwoman leading the aussies!

but for how long?

Will ABbot win the next election?
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I love Gillard, so happy, it's like a 48yo, female version of me running the country...

Do feel for Rudd, what a shattering way to lose leadership of the country, I hope he's doing ok... But if a change of leader is what was necessary to decrease the possibility of Abbot becoming a PM, it's a beautiful thing. I do get the sense that Rudd was starting to grate and not just on those who were gonna vote for Gillard in the caucus, but most Australians in general.
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