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Old 04-26-2011, 11:21 AM   #196
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I guess because Obama's not a real American and he hates America-GWB was a flag waving real American who loved America and would kick the butt of anyone who didn't.

By the way Trump-Hawaii requires people who don't have one to get the certification of live birth. The long form is vaulted and it's a more costly time consuming process to apply for a copy. One person has allegedly done so-ONE. And it was a birther. The certification of live birth is the preferred one in Hawaii, because it's easier for them and saves the state MONEY.

Now Trump is claiming that Obama's long form certificate is "missing". What he is basing that claim on, I have no idea.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone-so who is looking into that and who ever did?
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:01 PM   #197
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John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone-so who is looking into that and who ever did?
^Well, and this is forgotten in all of the knuckle-dragging babbling about birth certificates:

You are an American citizen if one of your parents is an American citizen; it doesn't matter where you are born!



Donald, et al, MOVE ON!
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I'm starting to get pissed off that there's so much attention being salivated all over this asshole.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:23 PM   #199
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You are an American citizen if one of your parents is an American citizen; it doesn't matter where you are born!
This.

Seriously, let it go.
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^Well, and this is forgotten in all of the knuckle-dragging babbling about birth certificates:

You are an American citizen if one of your parents is an American citizen; it doesn't matter where you are born!



Donald, et al, MOVE ON!
^exactly!

he's a dumbass crackpot fool.. with a frickin carpet on his head..
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:55 PM   #201
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HAHA...

from Steve Martin ( a tweet from today):

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Have found Donald Trump's birth certificate. He was born in Hawaii, but before it was a state. This is getting complicated.
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:23 PM   #202
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You are an American citizen if one of your parents is an American citizen; it doesn't matter where you are born!
Not exactly. If you were born abroad since 1986, the citizen parent must additionally have resided in the US for a total of at least 5 years, 2 of them after the age of 14, in order for you to qualify as a "natural born citizen." If you were born abroad between 1952 and 1986 (Obama was born in 1961), the citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of at least 10 years, 5 of them after the age of 14 (Obama's mother was 18 when he was born). So, had he been born abroad, in principle that might be a problem for his eligibility for the presidency. Of course, he wasn't, and this quest for the nonstandard long form birth certificate is just more tilting at windmills.
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It's a joke in the end on so many levels.
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:34 PM   #204
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^Well, and this is forgotten in all of the knuckle-dragging babbling about birth certificates:

You are an American citizen if one of your parents is an American citizen; it doesn't matter where you are born!



Donald, et al, MOVE ON!
I was also born in Panama Canal Zone. I have dual citizenship if I want it, US and Panamanian but claim the good ole USA first.
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Not exactly. If you were born abroad since 1986,

without an official *live birth* certificate it is not possible to prove irrefutably that he was born before 1986.
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Just so you know, I choked audibly on my drink and several students looked up from their exams in alarm.
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thanks deep, i needed that!
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Not exactly. If you were born abroad since 1986, the citizen parent must additionally have resided in the US for a total of at least 5 years, 2 of them after the age of 14, in order for you to qualify as a "natural born citizen." If you were born abroad between 1952 and 1986 (Obama was born in 1961), the citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of at least 10 years, 5 of them after the age of 14 (Obama's mother was 18 when he was born). So, had he been born abroad, in principle that might be a problem for his eligibility for the presidency. Of course, he wasn't, and this quest for the nonstandard long form birth certificate is just more tilting at windmills.
Thank you for clarifying.


If you stare at those windmills long enough, they do look menacing.
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Donald Trump to drive 100th anniversary Indianapolis 500 pace car.

“It’s a great honor to be selected as the Pace Car driver for such an American institution as the 100th anniversary of the Indianapolis 500,” Trump said in a news release from the speedway. “The Indianapolis 500 has been the gold standard of motorsports for a century, and I can’t wait to get behind the wheel of the Camaro and bring the famous field of 33 drivers to the green flag.”

Well, he has my vote now but I'd still like to see proof he has a driver's license.
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