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Old 04-07-2007, 08:48 PM   #31
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And there in lies the detail that makes a troll: lack of answering specific questions.
Right. AchtungBono rocks up, makes some absolutely outlandish claim nobody could possibly believe (she has basically elevated Bush to the position of a perfect and infallible deity through some of her recent posts, something not even his most dedicated genuine followers would do), then avoids all serious questions while making more ridiculous posts in a trollish attempt to get attention and rile people up.

AchtungBono is a troll. Ban her. jick was banned for less.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:55 PM   #32
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I'm dedicated to truth and justice......if that makes me a troll then so be it.

Bill O'reilly and Fox news are the ONLY people I trust when it comes to reporting the news.


Oh my. You are very gullible. Hilarious. But gullible nonetheless.
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:37 PM   #33
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Axver, put your pitchfork down and chill out. It's not your job to decide who's up for banning around here and especially not publically.
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:17 AM   #34
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Right. AchtungBono rocks up, makes some absolutely outlandish claim nobody could possibly believe (she has basically elevated Bush to the position of a perfect and infallible deity through some of her recent posts, something not even his most dedicated genuine followers would do), then avoids all serious questions while making more ridiculous posts in a trollish attempt to get attention and rile people up.

AchtungBono is a troll. Ban her. jick was banned for less.
It's a sad day when a member should be banned for expressing an unpopular opinion.

I admit that I only saw the tail end of the debate while they were in the heat of the discussion.
When I have a chance to watch the entire debate and analyze it, then I will definitely address the issue.

One of the great things about FYM is the fact that we can have a free exchange of ideas and have intelligent conversations. I hope this will continue to be the case.

As for my so-called "Trollish attemps to get attention and rile people up"....please let me explain:
I log into the board and read the messages. When I read a thread that piques my interest then I respond to it because I enjoy the freedom of expression that this forum affords me. However, sometimes I don't have the time to spend on this board because I only have limited time on the internet when I'm at my mom's house or my office. I am in no way a hit-and-run poster - I appreciate comments on my threads and welcome any and all opinions on my posts.

I have no need to be ashamed of any thoughts and opinions that I express, and I certainly don't like the insinuation that I'm just a troublemaker seeking attention - that is not me at all.

As I said, when I watch the debate from the beginning then I will address it on an intelligent level.
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:45 AM   #35
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Its just AB, that your comments are so far from "normal" thinking that it makes you seem either very guillible or ludicrious, or you are taking the piss.

Its one to put your cart behind the bush administration (which is not looked up well here - for good reason) but to blatently ignore so many things, and have blind loyalty and faith towards people who really TRULY have done nothing to deserve it, is both scary and unbelieviable and to some people reeks of trollish behaviour.

perhaps you can explain WHY you think Bush is the second coming and O'Reilly is a demi god?
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Old 04-09-2007, 04:24 PM   #36
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It's a sad day when a member should be banned for expressing an unpopular opinion.

I admit that I only saw the tail end of the debate while they were in the heat of the discussion.
When I have a chance to watch the entire debate and analyze it, then I will definitely address the issue.

One of the great things about FYM is the fact that we can have a free exchange of ideas and have intelligent conversations. I hope this will continue to be the case.

As for my so-called "Trollish attemps to get attention and rile people up"....please let me explain:
I log into the board and read the messages. When I read a thread that piques my interest then I respond to it because I enjoy the freedom of expression that this forum affords me. However, sometimes I don't have the time to spend on this board because I only have limited time on the internet when I'm at my mom's house or my office. I am in no way a hit-and-run poster - I appreciate comments on my threads and welcome any and all opinions on my posts.

I have no need to be ashamed of any thoughts and opinions that I express, and I certainly don't like the insinuation that I'm just a troublemaker seeking attention - that is not me at all.

As I said, when I watch the debate from the beginning then I will address it on an intelligent level.
But you could at least address your affection for Bush and O'Reilly on an intelligent level without watching this debate, which you have yet to do.

Your two posts so far on this thread ARE hit-and-run posts.
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hello everybody

Jesus, why can't someone have a different opinion without some people getting so upset??


Unless a poster is getting personal with other posters,
I don't think any action needs to be taken.

Posters can reply or not.

I am disappointed with many of the things that have been posted towards
and about AchtungBono.

I may have a different opinion than her,
but I welcome her right to share hers.
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perhaps you can explain why you think so and so
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all the other rhetoric seems a bit much.
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i never, ever thought i'd take Geraldo's side in anything, but he's 100% right. it has to do with drunk driving, not being an illegal immigrant.



The people who died in this terrible crash did not die because the driver was an illegal immigrant. They died because of a drunk driver. He's at it again tonight. It's digusting. All of this outrage directed at whether a person is an illegal immigrant or not. Where is the outrage about drunk drivers? He hardly mentions that .

eta: He had Geraldo on the phone tonight and Geraldo was making nice and backing off. Well, at least I can go back to thinking Geraldo is a sleazy weasel again. That's a relief.
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Ok.....the only reason I'm bumping this thread up is because I finally watched the clip of the Geraldo/O'reilly standoff.

And here are my comments:

The issue wasn't about illegal immigration, it was about drunk driving (as Geraldo said). HOWEVER O'Reilly was right about the fact that the driver shouldn't have been in the U.S. in the first place - and this was due to lax enforcement of the laws and the so-called "sanctuary cities" which grant some sort of immunity to the illegal immigrants.

Both gentlemen had a valid point of view. It's like a sex offender being freed from jail and then killing a child and then everyone asks WHY he was set free. Same point here, why was he allowed to remain in the U.S. and why wasn't he deported when his illegal status was known.

O'reilly stands up for law enforcement and justice and I admire him deeply for that. He's very passionate about his beliefs and it's because of him that many states have passed "Jessica's Law" which will hopefully save a lot of children's lives.

He's still my hero.
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Both gentlemen had a valid point of view. It's like a sex offender being freed from jail and then killing a child and then everyone asks WHY he was set free. Same point here, why was he allowed to remain in the U.S. and why wasn't he deported when his illegal status was known.


so ... illegal immigrants are drunk drivers?
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Uh oh, Achtung has a different opinion. Ban him! Is there a rule against that? No. Learn to let people disagree with you. It's a free country.
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Uh oh, Achtung has a different opinion. Ban him! Is there a rule against that? No. Learn to let people disagree with you. It's a free country.
Oh another poor victim.

Is that really what you see in this thread? I can't possibly believe you do.
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Uh oh, Achtung has a different opinion. Ban him! Is there a rule against that? No. Learn to let people disagree with you. It's a free country.
And the point we were trying to make just went waaaaay over your head.

We're not talking about the opinion. We're talking about, after direct questions, the "O'REILLY IS MY HERO!" posts with no detail. Now, at least we get a post that has some actual belief placed in it.
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so ... illegal immigrants are drunk drivers?
No Irvine, this drunk driver happened to be an illegal alien and had 3 prior offences against him.
He was in the justice system and somehow he kept falling through the cracks until this unfortunate tragedy occurs.

Which brings me to O'reilly's argument that this guy should have been deported after his first offence and not wait until he killed someone.
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Which brings me to O'reilly's argument that this guy should have been deported after his first offence and not wait until he killed someone.
But he could have been legal and nothing would have changed, that's the whole point, it would have been the same outcome.

Even if he was deported and then later became legal, nothing would have changed. THIS ISN'T AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE.
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