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Old 12-24-2013, 09:58 AM   #76
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I pronounce "crayon" mostly like "cran," but there's just the hint of a second syllable in there.
Still blows my mind!
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:36 AM   #77
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Damn now I want to hear one of you guys pronounce Crayon. I seriously have never heard it being pronounced in just one syllable.
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And if U2 EVER did Hawkmoon live....and the version from the Lovetown Tour, my uterus would leave my body and fling itself at Bono - for realz.
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I love this shit.

It pretty much nailed me geographically.
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I can record something quickly to display my accent but I don't even know what to read off to do it.
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Old 12-24-2013, 04:52 PM   #80
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Damn now I want to hear one of you guys pronounce Crayon. I seriously have never heard it being pronounced in just one syllable.
That's what's in the link I posted yesterday that khan quoted right above your post :-P
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Old 12-24-2013, 05:10 PM   #81
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I missed that.

Sounds like crane to me.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:18 PM   #82
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ooh yeah we should come up with a list of words or something that everyone could read off of or something. sorry, i love this stuff
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I had everyone at my house say Crayon, tonight, and every person said it the same way I do.
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ooh yeah we should come up with a list of words or something that everyone could read off of or something. sorry, i love this stuff
"Crayon" and "poem" are the start of the list.

Something like "dance" or "chance" would also be good. I love to give shit to my fellow Kiwis in Australia who've lapsed into pronouncing those words the Aussie way (with a nasal "a" rather than "dahnsse" or "chahnsse"). Oh and then there's "known" and "grown"; I think the Kiwi two-syllable pronunciation of words with an -n suffix is distinctive; i.e. in my accent "grown" and "groan" sound totally different.
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Oh and then there's "known" and "grown"; I think the Kiwi two-syllable pronunciation of words with an -n suffix is distinctive; i.e. in my accent "grown" and "groan" sound totally different.
i know exactly what you mean, i guess i'd say it's like...know-in? i can hear it in my head. there's not a lot of emphasis on the -n, so for anyone thinking it's like know-IN (or knowing) it's not. bah.

i'd say kiwis say "oo" sounds differently too, like book, took, wood, etc. it's totally different from any other english-speaking accent i've ever heard, anyway.
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i know exactly what you mean, i guess i'd say it's like...know-in? i can hear it in my head. there's not a lot of emphasis on the -n, so for anyone thinking it's like know-IN (or knowing) it's not. bah.

i'd say kiwis say "oo" sounds differently too, like book, took, wood, etc. it's totally different from any other english-speaking accent i've ever heard, anyway.
I'd probably write it out as "know'n" myself but "know-in" is just as good, with emphasis on the first syllable as you say; it's as if we've dropped a vowel (like we do in so many other words). Oddly enough, I think I've actually come to unintentionally exaggerate the -n living in Australia around people who don't do it; I notice that my relatives back home pronounce the -n softer than I do.

Not sure I've noticed the distinctive "oo" that you mention. I wonder if I do it? My accent is a total mess. I did an interview on Kiwi radio yesterday and all my Kiwi relatives commented on how Aussie my accent sounds sometimes (perhaps didn't help that I began with "g'day"!), but everybody at work reckons that I sound the most Kiwi of the entire Kiwi contingent - despite the fact I've lived in Australia for at least a decade longer than the other Kiwis! I think it really depends on what I say and what local reference the listener has as to whether I sound Kiwi or Aussie to somebody. If I'm yelling at the footy, I know I sound Australian (after all, "barracking" for a team and telling them to "CAAAARN!" [come on] are of Melbourne origin), but if I'm holding forth on a Kiwi topic I can really lapse into the Kiwi side of my accent.
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when kiwis say six it sounds like sex ha
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when Aussies say six it sounds like sex ha
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when cobbler says it, it sounds like virgin 4 lyfe

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I think it really depends on what I say and what local reference the listener has as to whether I sound Kiwi or Aussie to somebody. If I'm yelling at the footy, I know I sound Australian (after all, "barracking" for a team and telling them to "CAAAARN!" [come on] are of Melbourne origin), but if I'm holding forth on a Kiwi topic I can really lapse into the Kiwi side of my accent.
that kind of reminds me how sometimes i can pick up little elements of someone else's accents if i talk to them. i mean, nothing major, i won't suddenly start speaking with a fake english accent or something, i'll just notice during a conversation i'll say a vowel the way they do or something. i've always called it accent velcro.

as for coming up with a list of words, in addition to crayon, poem, and dance/chance, one can just plagiate from the quiz:
caramel, been, lawyer, mayonnaise, coupon, route, pyjamas, pecan pie (the way i say it wasn't even on there), syrup, mary/merry/marry*, cot/caught*, herb, dew, aunt...there's a lot here: http://www4.uwm.edu/FLL/linguistics/dialect/maps.html (only about the first half is pronunciations while the second half is more grammar, but it's still a lot)


*i know of more mergers should anyone find that of any interest: father/bother, lot/cloth, foot/goose, pin/pen, toe/tow, line/loin, coil/curl, mare/mayor, taut/taught, trap/bath, wine/whine
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