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Old 08-26-2008, 11:22 AM   #46
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Michelle's speech was absolutely amazing. She's an inspiration. She's brilliant, has a successful career, and puts her husband and children first. I agree with Laura; that was definitely the best speech I've heard a political spouse give. It's a shame she's being treated similarly to the way Hillary was during the '92' campaign. Just because they're both women who are their husbands' equals in terms of career success and they refuse to simply stand in the background like delicate little flowers, (while beaming at their knight-in-shining-armor ), they're considered a liability to their spouses. It's truly embarrassing in a country that prides itself on equality for all. On another note, the other highlight for me was Ted Kennedy. He looked great, and it's good to see the Liberal Lion still has his roar, so to speak. He's made his share of serious mistakes, but he's also worked his whole life to help the average American. I personally think the first night of the convention was exactly the way it needed to be.
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He's not even at the convention yet and he's messing up...

Obama from a home in Kansas City: I'm 'here in St. Louis'

DENVER — Last week, Republican John McCain didn't know how many homes he owns.

Tonight, Democrat Barack Obama didn't know what town he was in.

In a live satellite speech tonight to the Democratic National Convention in Denver from a home in Kansas City, Obama said: "I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis."

Then came a graphic across the television screen that said Obama was in Kansas City, Mo.

Then 7-year-old Sasha Obama asked: "Daddy, what city are you in?"

"I'm in Kansas City, sweetie," Obama said, correcting his earlier geographic reference.

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Old 08-26-2008, 02:12 PM   #48
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Obama, Clinton camps working on hotel roll-call vote

Obama, Clinton camps working on hotel roll-call vote - The Denver Post

Supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton furiously circulated petitions on the floor of the Democratic National Convention last night, hoping to stave off a plan to hold the convention's roll call at breakfast Wednesday — out of the public eye — sources inside the delegations said.

The move being worked out between the Obama campaign and officials behind Clinton's suspended bid, would work in two parts: Delegates would cast votes at their hotels Wednesday morning; that night, at the Pepsi Center convention site, the roll-call process would rely on the votes cast that morning, the delegates said.

Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, a former state co-chair for Clinton said she knows the camps are in negotiations about what to do.

"My view is we need to come together as a party," DeGette said. "I admire Hillary Clinton greatly, but I think it would be divisive to have a vote on the floor. We need to have a unanimous vote."

The evening event would call on the delegation from Illinois, which Obama serves as the junior senator, and then move to New York, which Clinton represents.

After New York delegates applaud Clinton's long-fought and historic candidacy, a motion would be made to accept the votes cast at breakfast.

The move is being resisted by some Clinton delegates, who are busy tonight circulating a petition among delegates as the opening night of the convention, titled "One Nation," gets underway.

"We just want a roll call like you're supposed to have," said one of the delegates collecting signatures for the petition, who asked not to be named because of concern about friction within the party.

The Obama campaign denied that there would be a change.

"This is not true," Jennifer Backus, a senior advisor, said in an email in response to a question about the negotiations for the roll call change.

David Harper of Macon County, Tenn., signed a petition to ensure a floor vote in the hall surrounding the Pepsi Center.

"I came out here by God to vote for her, and I'm going to do it," Harper said, visibly angry about the news.

Kelly Jacobs a die-hard Clinton supporter from Hernando, Miss., an area that went heavily for Clinton, stood in the hall collecting signatures. She said the Clinton backers need 800 to secure a floor vote.

Anything less than that, Jacobs said, would be an insult to her candidate.

"I could have voted from home," Jacobs said. "She is our captain. We don't want to see her disrespected."

She was furious, she said, when she learned this morning that the votes may be held at the delegate hotels instead of on the convention hall floor.

"That's not what we learned in civics class," Jacobs said.

Texas delegate Tory Lauterbach said she has heard about the petition, but is unsure if she will sign it.

"I think the votes should be cast and counted the way they have been historically," she said. "But I don't think every delegate needs to stand and say something. I want a good convention."

So does Sally Phillips of Tampa, Fla. She said that although she is a Clinton supporter, she will undoubtedly support Obama because she doesn't want another Republican in the White House.

"I think the world of her," Phillips said. "I've seen the petition but I'm not going to focus on that."

The discussions come after a long summer in which Clinton delegates have argued for a chance to be heard during the convention. The party wants unity, and the announcement made by Obama and Clinton last week that a floor vote would occur was meant to provide that opportunity.


Denver Post Staff Writer Jessica Fender contributed to this report.
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He's not even at the convention yet and he's messing up...

Obama from a home in Kansas City: I'm 'here in St. Louis'

DENVER — Last week, Republican John McCain didn't know how many homes he owns.

Tonight, Democrat Barack Obama didn't know what town he was in.

In a live satellite speech tonight to the Democratic National Convention in Denver from a home in Kansas City, Obama said: "I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis."

Then came a graphic across the television screen that said Obama was in Kansas City, Mo.

Then 7-year-old Sasha Obama asked: "Daddy, what city are you in?"

"I'm in Kansas City, sweetie," Obama said, correcting his earlier geographic reference.

You haven't traveled much have you? Believe me if you ever travel to several cities in a couple weeks time, sometimes more than one in a day, you'll be a little confused as well. This is nothing like not knowing how many homes you own. Nothing.
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He's not even at the convention yet and he's messing up...

Obama from a home in Kansas City: I'm 'here in St. Louis'

DENVER — Last week, Republican John McCain didn't know how many homes he owns.

Tonight, Democrat Barack Obama didn't know what town he was in.

In a live satellite speech tonight to the Democratic National Convention in Denver from a home in Kansas City, Obama said: "I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis."

Then came a graphic across the television screen that said Obama was in Kansas City, Mo.

Then 7-year-old Sasha Obama asked: "Daddy, what city are you in?"

"I'm in Kansas City, sweetie," Obama said, correcting his earlier geographic reference.

Obama is doing damn well if these are the kinds of "gaffes" you feel the need to highlight.
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You haven't traveled much have you? Believe me if you ever travel to several cities in a couple weeks time, sometimes more than one in a day, you'll be a little confused as well. This is nothing like not knowing how many homes you own. Nothing.

Exactly...


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I'm not being critical of her speech, just making an observation.
And what observation is that? That setting a goal of going to college and law school is elitist? That people from poor areas shouldn't dream big and work towards their goals?

Honestly, explain your observation.
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I assume the implication is that perhaps she intentionally avoided specifying which universities both because an Ivy League education is realistically beyond the reach of most of her audience, and because the 'Washington elite' (both parties) is famously packed with Ivy League grads. Whatever.
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You haven't traveled much have you?

not as much as Obama

he has been to 57 states


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"It is wonderful to be back in Oregon," Obama said. "Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."
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I assume the implication is that perhaps she intentionally avoided specifying which universities both because an Ivy League education is realistically beyond the reach of most of her audience, and because the 'Washington elite' (both parties) is famously packed with Ivy League grads. Whatever.
Because maybe the Republicans have made her success into something dirty. Going to an Ivy League school on scholarships is elitist and should be spit upon by the stupid proletariat.
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Then came a graphic across the television screen that said Obama was in Kansas City, Mo.

Then 7-year-old Sasha Obama asked: "Daddy, what city are you in?"

"I'm in Kansas City, sweetie,"

First Edwards,


Now we have Obama not telling the truth to his 7-year old daughter on National T. V.
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Indeed. If you're going to get into an Ivy League school, it damn well better be through family connections. That's the only way Joe Blue Collar could relate to it.
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First Edwards,


Now we have Obama not telling the truth to his 7-year old daughter on National T. V.
Tee-hee. You're funny.
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Because maybe the Republicans have made her success into something dirty. Going to an Ivy League school on scholarships is elitist and should be spit upon by the stupid proletariat.
isn't this a bit of a stretch ?

we have W having gone to Harvard on a legacy

and McCain went to Annapolis, via a similar situation?
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W attended Yale I believe.
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