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Old 04-21-2016, 08:46 AM   #16
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It is rather.

What's even funnier is that I believe Fraser when he suggested that he remained what he was. He wasn't a lefty, he was actually a (liberal-ish) conservative. He was just out of step with the new breed. As will we all be, at some point.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:01 AM   #17
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I think he at least fudged the truth there. Would he have opposed Medicare now? No. What did his government abolish? The first go at Medicare.

But in broad terms, yes, the party left him rather than the other way around. Hewson was probably the last Liberal leader with more than just a passing affinity for the Fraser era - and to think the election he lost was a mere ten years after Fraser blew it against oh-shit-not-Bill-Hayden (surely the ultimate political blunder, and not possible today [look it up, non-Australians]).
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:09 AM   #18
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Yairs... it'd be interesting to inter his corpse and quiz him on Medicare (my guess, all conservatives were reliably opposed to anything like it back then, and he probably quietly changed his tune substantially in the years since).

Actually Hewson was really the first flush of the full-blown zealot wing of the Liberal Party. I know, I know, it doesn't look that way. He's socially liberal enough. But his economic plan straight out of Reagan/Thatcher central casting, his US-style razzamataz like some creepy US pentecostal preacher... oh yeah, Hewson was the real deal.
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Fair point re: Hewson. I think even he has stepped back from some of the positions he advanced in 1993 - you can tell he thinks Abbott & Friends are complete morons. And even in 1993 I'm not sure he was the most hardcore of the bunch.

But it is easy to possess a nostalgic glow for him because he had Actual Policy and tried to defeat Keating in our last election to go much deeper than your average soundbyte.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:22 AM   #20
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1993 was an election for the ages in some respects. Hewson's failing was he didn't quite realise what showbiz looks like. Against some of these latter day Labor leaders, he'd have won, and won comfortably.
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Keating - like Hawke before him - was a rare politician to combine policy with soundbytes.

A fucking drover's dog, as they might say, would've wiped the floor with Latham. Well, maybe not when Latho first got the leadership, which is the scary thing, but once we got to know him and his propensity for insanity, yes.
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You only get one Latham in a lifetime.
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One, we're starting to learn all too well, is more than enough.

I miss 2011, when Latho was this slightly awkward but generally amusing joke. Now mention his name to an ALP hack and they'll vanish in a puff of smoke.
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Didn't he accost Julia Gillard on campaign during his brief sojourn as a channel 9 'reporter'?
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Oh god that's a bad memory. Perhaps the first major sign of the lunacy to come.

I think he was working for 60 Minutes. Shame they didn't send him to Beirut rather than Tara Brown. Could've left him there without bail, though that'd be mean to the people of Lebanon. They've been through a lot. They don't deserve Latho.
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Oh god that's a bad memory. Perhaps the first major sign of the lunacy to come.

I think he was working for 60 Minutes. Shame they didn't send him to Beirut rather than Tara Brown. Could've left him there without bail, though that'd be mean to the people of Lebanon. They've been through a lot. They don't deserve Latho.
Bob Hawke briefly worked for 60 Minutes too. Great, great pedigree, that show.
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I can only assume that ol' Bob's big scoop was a story on bums who sacked their employees after the America's Cup.

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Is AMERICA located somewhere around the corner from Murica?

Because I think both are secretly under the control of STRAYA and its prime minister, an aggressive stoner koala wearing a big boot.
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