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Old 07-11-2013, 11:38 AM   #16
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How did that discussion end up in there?
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How did that discussion end up in there?
Bono has business ties to Monsanto, and some fans are now questioning his commitment to actually helping Africa.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:00 PM   #19
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how is that going? I'm scared to look
It's calming down, not as intense as it was before.
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Bono has business ties to Monsanto, and some fans are now questioning his commitment to actually helping Africa.
I feel that people's attitude towards GM food is a bit of an overreaction.

But maybe I should go drop that bomb in the Monsanto thread.
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I have no idea what that thread is about (though I am curious to go look now) but for me, it's not really about GMO foods as much as it is about Monsanto's litigious nature, overly protectionist IP stance and long history of litigating against every farmer it comes across. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
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I feel that people's attitude towards GM food is a bit of an overreaction.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:24 PM   #23
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I have no idea what that thread is about (though I am curious to go look now) but for me, it's not really about GMO foods as much as it is about Monsanto's litigious nature, overly protectionist IP stance and long history of litigating against every farmer it comes across. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.


"Monsanto is bad. Monsanto makes GMOs. Therefore, GMOs are bad."

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GMOs are the only way everyone on this planet can be fed. Many have already died simply because their governments were convinced by overzealous 'activists' that genetically modified foods are dangerous. They should be ashamed.

Anti-GMO activist are the Left's version of Climate Change deniers
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It could also be fear of the unknown. A few years back, I did an article for grad school about the possibility of meat from cloned animals being sold in stores. Many didn't like the idea of eating that kind of meat, even though they didn't have solid good reasons.
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I have no idea what that thread is about (though I am curious to go look now) but for me, it's not really about GMO foods as much as it is about Monsanto's litigious nature, overly protectionist IP stance and long history of litigating against every farmer it comes across. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
I just blew 40 minutes reading the whole thread and that's pretty much the conclusion I drew. Although, as a general principle, I tend to be doubtful of any one corporation or entity having the kind of massive villainous power that seems more appropriate to an action movie than real life. Still, do greedy, powerful corporations do bad things? Sure. Is Monsanto one such company? Quite possibly.

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Anti-GMO activist are the Left's version of Climate Change deniers
That's pretty much where I"m at.
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GMOs are the only way everyone on this planet can be fed.
I don't know about that. If you took even half of the land currently used for cattle grazing and devoted it to staple crops instead, there would be a huge dent in world hunger. The real issue, though, is lack of infrastructure. I recently read that, in some areas of China and in large swaths of Africa, only 40% of viable, harvested crops make it to a human mouth, largely because they are not transported efficiently.
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I have no idea what that thread is about (though I am curious to go look now) but for me, it's not really about GMO foods as much as it is about Monsanto's litigious nature, overly protectionist IP stance and long history of litigating against every farmer it comes across. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
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I don't know about that. If you took even half of the land currently used for cattle grazing and devoted it to staple crops instead, there would be a huge dent in world hunger.
Perhaps I should've said "viable way". There's no way half of the land used in the meat industry is going to be switched to agriculture. If everyone on the planet switched to vegetarianism, we'd probably have a solution too, but I don't see that ever happening. In our current situation, "classic" farming methods don't yield enough to feed the planet
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When I hear a phrase like 'Bono has business ties to Monsanto', I reach for my pistil.
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