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Old 11-04-2009, 12:25 AM   #91
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it takes a lot to kill someone with a pair of scissors.

it's quick and easy to kill someone with a gun, particularly if you're 12 and mugging someone.

why -- someone, please, tell me why -- is our murder rate in the US so much higher than in Canada, Australia, the UK, etc.

could it maybe be because we have so many more guns on our streets and that facilitates murder?

Why is the UK's so much higher than Japans?

Maybe we should look at how we're able to have so many guns and so few murders.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:43 AM   #92
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i'd rather be killed by gunshot to the head than have my throat cut.

so guns make dying easier for the victims. so there you go, guns ARE good.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:09 PM   #93
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Maybe we should be doing something to combat the black market.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:18 PM   #94
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Maybe we should be doing something to combat the black market.
damn you obama, this is all your fault!
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:31 PM   #95
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personally? i believe in gun control, but i know ultimately if someone wants to murder someone, they'll do it even if they can't get a gun. recently, i saw extensive coverage involving a person who killed someone else with scissors and a knife. (though like i said i strongly believe in gun control.)
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Ah, lucidity.
The difference is if your gonna kill someone with a knife and scissors, you've really got to be determined or deranged. Something has to be driving you, as I'm sure it's probably not easy to do. However, with a gun, you just have to be pissed.

I bet if you could do a survey on people who have killed, those that shot someone probably have a higher "regret rate" cause shooting someone doesn't take much - there's no time to go "this is wrong". I think someone that went at someone with scissors and had the gumption to finish probably really thought that person deserved it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:22 PM   #96
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Shootings at Texas Base Kill at Least 12; Dozens Hurt

By MARIA NEWMAN
At least 12 people were killed and 31 wounded Thursday afternoon in a shooting at a military installation in Fort Hood, Texas, according to military spokesmen. Lt. General Bob Cone said in Texas that the two alleged shooters were Army soldiers who opened fire in a “readiness facility.”

Lt. Gen. Cone confirmed that one shooter had been killed.

President Obama said it was “horrifying” that American soldiers would face such a situation at home.

Fort Hood is one of the largest active-duty military installation in the country. The base serves about 218,000 people, including service members, retirees and military families.

Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas told Fox 4 News that one shooter was in custody and “another is still at large.”

She said she was told by authorities that there were as many as 30 wounded.

“It was a processing center where soldiers are processed to go to Iraq or Afghanistan.

“Our hearts go out,” she said. “These are soldiers who are getting ready to go out to Iraq or Afghanistan and their families were under stress already. This was just a terrible tragedy and we don’t even know the extent of it yet.”

At the White House, spokesman Robert Gibbs said that President Obama has been briefed on the shooting.

Carroll Smith, spokeswoman for the Killeen Police Department, told the San Antonio Express-News that the post had not asked the local police for help.


not a hammer or baseball bat in sight.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:23 PM   #97
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I think someone that went at someone with scissors and had the gumption to finish probably really thought that person deserved it.
Like NSW and/or Elfa, for example?
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not a hammer or baseball bat in sight.
Shepherd Smith actually said on the air that he didn't want to give the name until the military confirmed it, but that "the name says/tells you (can't remember what the exact words were) a lot". CNN says his name was Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan -allegedly he was being deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan and didn't want to go. But with that name, hey he was more than capable of this anyway, apparently.

I still can't believe he actually said that-and he was talking to Sen Hutchison and I think she may have said "yes" in a low voice but I'm not sure.
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The difference is if your gonna kill someone with a knife and scissors, you've really got to be determined or deranged. Something has to be driving you, as I'm sure it's probably not easy to do. However, with a gun, you just have to be pissed.
exactly.
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apparently, on fox of course, it seems to be Obama's fault for not pulling troops out like he said he would.
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He was a psychiatrist or a psychologist but he still did this (that might be the most frightening part of all of it). I guess that's Obama's fault too. 3 somes on Gossip Girl..I blame Obama for that moral decline too.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:37 PM   #102
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He was a psychiatrist or a psychologist but he still did this (that might be the most frightening part of all of it). I guess that's Obama's fault too. 3 somes on Gossip Girl..I blame Obama for that moral decline too.


President Obama is to blame?

I did not realize he has had so much impact on the decline Western civilization over the past fifty years.


*inanimate objects seem to be receiving a lot of the blame on this thread
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Shepherd Smith actually said on the air that he didn't want to give the name until the military confirmed it, but that "the name says/tells you (can't remember what the exact words were) a lot". CNN says his name was Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan -allegedly he was being deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan and didn't want to go. But with that name, hey he was more than capable of this anyway, apparently.

I still can't believe he actually said that-and he was talking to Sen Hutchison and I think she may have said "yes" in a low voice but I'm not sure.
Yes and Shep Smith is regarded as one of the moderates on Fox News. Seemingly Fox News before it became clear it was a soldier that did this were screaming about TERRA TERRA and creating the impression that it was a mini 911 type thing. They would have loved that, only a matter of hours before they would have found a link to the Iranians.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:45 PM   #104
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*inanimate objects seem to be receiving a lot of the blame on this thread
Then you haven't been reading, I thought reading was fun?
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President Obama is to blame?

I did not realize he has had so much impact on the decline Western civilization over the past fifty years.


*inanimate objects seem to be receiving a lot of the blame on this thread
I also blame Obama for Jeremy Piven's moobs-even though he claims they're from drinking too much soy milk.

It's just a good thing that the major at Fort Hood didn't have two pairs of scissors
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