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Old 08-06-2007, 11:51 PM   #61
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I am from a family of nine kids. (Mom and Dad were good Catholics. ) But there's a HUGE difference between the way me and my siblings were raised and the way this family is being raised. We never had more than three kids to a bedroom, my sisters and I could wear jeans just like the boys, and although we were expected to help out around the house, it wasn't a huge burden (It did used to irk me that my brothers never had to help out with the dishes like I did - Mom always countered that it was the boys' job to mow the lawn and take out the garbage, but it still seemed kind of unfair to me).

In other words, I think it's fine for parents to have lots of kids if that's what they really want and they can afford it - but combining it with a lot of sexist crap like this family does galls me. Plus there's the whole "whoring your family out to reality TV" aspect.

(Edited to add my brothers and sisters and I were not sequestered from the outside world, either.)
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:05 AM   #62
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I'm liberal, and I'm certainly not Godless.That's a blanket statement and very uncalled for. Our country was founded specifically on the principle that church and state would remain separate. That's why we don't have government sanctioned religion. Christian morality, Jewish morality, Buddhist morality, etc. should never be law in a country who was founded by those who wanted freedom to practice whatever religion they chose (or disregard it entirely).
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:04 AM   #63
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The way they are raising their kids is their choice. They made the choice to have 17 kids, they made the choice to live this way and raise the kids this way. This is their own personal business. Right?
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:46 AM   #65
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I just now got the joke *is slow witted* a clown car is....small
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:05 AM   #66
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The onyl go through 12 rolls of toilet paper a week? There are 3 people in this house and we got through about 4! maybe we use too much

Also, i don't have any problem with how they're being raised, they seem quite smart, and socialised - they ar efriends with another family of christians with heaps of children, plus their church friends.

i just want to see if oneof them goes off the rails! I wonder if they'll have a tv special on that?
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:25 AM   #67
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The onyl go through 12 rolls of toilet paper a week? There are 3 people in this house and we got through about 4! maybe we use too much


I use at least 3 just myself! That's not even 1 roll per person! I know they're trying to be frugal, but you know, sometimes, ummm, shit happens....and uh, you need to keep wiping or you'll end up smelling bad That just doesn't seem...right

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i just want to see if oneof them goes off the rails! I wonder if they'll have a tv special on that?
I do think this will happen! Even some Amish kids go wild. I'm sure the media will let us know about it.

I grew up next door to a family who homeschooled and was very church oriented, but they only had 2 kids, both boys. Once the older boy and I started a rock band, and the father became furious, saying he could only be in a band that played only instrumental music, and only with his brother The younger boy was caught drinking beer with a friend at 17, and they literally disowned him and put him out of the house. Last I heard he was living in a dive down by the docks. True story. Kid's name was Matt.

The father was the biggest asshole you've ever seen. He was one of those Christians who believed he could do anything as long as he was 'forgiven' I must say the experience of knowing them had a large hand in turning me against organized religion.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:50 AM   #68
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With so many children, there is a sign-up list in the kitchen for children who feel they need one-on-one time with a parent. But Michelle says that she actually has more one-on-one time and quality time with her children than most because she home-schools them and is with them all day.
Wow. I just can't even imagine having to write my name on a sign up sheet in order to get some attention from my parents. The time spent home-schooling is quality time...but it's not the same as doing things with your parents like throwing a football, swimming, playing board games, playing in the sandbox... I'm not trying to pass judgement on them, I'm just viewing this based on my own experiences. I just can't even imagine growing up in a household like that.
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Give me the Waltons over 2 yuppies, IPODs, ninetendo and 2.3 kids.


the Waltons weren't real; they were a pretend family on TV.
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Great homeschooling job!


i find the poor grammar most offensive.
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We are not to conclude from the foregoing expressions that they were Godless liberals of today.


but conservative evangelicals would consider them as such, they being deists and all, and no mention of Jesus, not anywhere.

but we've all been through this a million times before.
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The time spent home-schooling is quality time...
Maybe.
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We are not to conclude from the foregoing expressions that they were Godless liberals of today.

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Nor can we conclude they are the self serving God-manipulating conservatives of today.
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the Waltons weren't real; they were a pretend family on TV.
The Waltons were somewhat real. They were based on the Hamner family who lived in Schuyler, VA. I visited the quaint community this year.


http://www.delsjourney.com/travels_2...s_mountain.htm
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the Waltons weren't real; they were a pretend family on TV.
Yes, they were. "John Boy" was author Earl Hamner, Jr., and he wrote books about his actual family, like Laura Ingalls Wilder did with "Little House." Though most of what happened on the shows didn't really happen, the families, characters, and general situations were real. I've even seen shows where Hamner's siblings discussed which character on the show was based on them. I've been to the Virigina town where they came from, and saw the museum, and the house. It looks exactly like the one on the TV show, and "Jim Bob" still lives there.


And besides that Diamond was not meaning just the Waltons, but that type of large, happy multigenerational family like I described in my post that is now mostly a thing of the past, but that these people seem to be trying to be like.
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