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Old 08-16-2010, 05:38 PM   #241
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Aren't these kids all home schooled? Which would actually remove the cost from the city. It costs the taxpayers -- what -- an average of $5K per year per kid in the public school system? Doesn't that represents a savings of at least $50K ?
If they are, then I withdraw my asshole comment.
(I believe the public school per kid figure is closer to $10K.)



But, I'm not a fan of the "Be Fruitful and Multiply" crowd though. It's selfish.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:33 PM   #242
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If they are, then I withdraw my asshole comment.
(I believe the public school per kid figure is closer to $10K.)
Doing just a minimal amount of research, they're all homeschooled. So there you go.

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Reproductive freedom is selfish?
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:39 PM   #243
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But, I'm not a fan of the "Be Fruitful and Multiply" crowd though. It's selfish.
I disagree. If the family is able to support the children they choose to have, I don't really see how it's selfish.

What's going on with the Duggars. . .I don't know that I'd term it selfishness. I don't know what I'd call it, really. Just strange, I guess. I guess not knowing them personally, not even having seen the show or read a complete article, I don't feel it's my place to judge.

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Reproductive freedom is selfish?
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:17 AM   #245
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I know. Is it opposite day in FYM?
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Someone else said they did. I'm just asking.
Since I'm "someone else"..their mother is already there and present in their lives. That has nothing to do with gay male parents which is obviously what you are getting at. I happen to think that any loving and competent gay man or couple can do what she does and should be able to. The fact that they can't give birth to them is meaningless in light of how much love they can give them. That has zero to do with a mother deliberately taking a risk of dying and leaving her kids, zero. Irrelevant. God gave us emotional intelligence too and he wants us to use it in making decisions about our family.

And I agree with what Irvine referred to, the gender roles and the girls. It's not my idea of how girls should have to grow up. Not a healthy and balanced situation in 2010. I know how much resentment I had being an only girl and the gender inequality that existed for me, and it doesn't even compare to theirs. That's all they've ever known, but that doesn't mean it's the best situation for them.
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I disagree. If the family is able to support the children they choose to have, I don't really see how it's selfish.
Have you seen this show?

The older girls are treated like slaves and are responsible for basically all the housework and for the younger children. They do 98% of the work that the mother would ordinarily do. They did not choose this life and the way they are treated in comparison to the boys in particular is revolting.

The parents are selfish assholes for offloading their brood of children on their other children while keeping them all at home and under wraps and away from the big bad world so that they have no choice but to take on parental roles that they never signed up for.

I get when older kids help out with younger ones but anyone who's seen this show knows that this is absolutely not the case; they are not helping out, they are raising them entirely. Totally inappropriate in my eyes.
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Have you seen this show?

The older girls are treated like slaves and are responsible for basically all the housework and for the younger children. They do 98% of the work that the mother would ordinarily do. They did not choose this life and the way they are treated in comparison to the boys in particular is revolting.

The parents are selfish assholes for offloading their brood of children on their other children while keeping them all at home and under wraps and away from the big bad world so that they have no choice but to take on parental roles that they never signed up for.

I get when older kids help out with younger ones but anyone who's seen this show knows that this is absolutely not the case; they are not helping out, they are raising them entirely. Totally inappropriate in my eyes.
I've never seen the show. But, wow. That does sound awful. I'll have to check out some of the Youtube clips.
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Well, the kids are certainly getting a break right now:

A Dozen Duggars Sick with the Chickenpox - Yahoo! TV Blog

Yaaaaaaaaay. That should be a fun time.

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Three more kids since this thread started

TODAYMoms - 20 kids and counting! Michelle Duggar announces she's pregnant again

I hope she will be safe during this pregnancy and birth and that their child will be too
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Just ridiculous.

And the height of selfishness as well - they have a child who is younger than 2, who was born at 25 weeks weighing 1 lb 6oz. who is rather severely developmentally challenged and has a number of physical ailments for which she is repeatedly treated and hospitalized (as recently as last month). On top of that they have 18 other children who need attention and care.

But this is all fine and dandy since they treat their daughters like servants and since the daughters have "jurisdiction" over the babies. What a life.
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How many Duggars will we have in 20 more years?

20 x 20 = 400, if they all grow up to be just like good ol' Jim Bob.
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How does she even live with herself? I had a convo with a friend and she was saying sometimes it's a struggle to spend an hour a day with each kid and we were talking about TWO kids. There are only so many hours in the day....how do each of her kids even get five minutes of her time? Oh that's right, they don't because the older daughters are doing all the work...
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As someone who values reproductive choice, I'm trying really hard not to judge them for their reproductive choices.

But I am failing. I am judging them so hard.
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