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Old 01-22-2011, 05:18 AM   #16
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I just see this as a failure of the common folk to see who is behind their media idols/enemies and bother to give an F about who is really shaping the current political climate and coverage.

Fox News and Rush is just a symptom of the problem, not the enemy, folks.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:21 AM   #17
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No, they'll just continue to describe Rush Limbaugh as vital - thank GOD for Rush Limbaugh (as has been stated on this very forum) - for the well-being of the nation.

Nevermind that the man is a proven racist whose latest anti-Chinese rants are also apparently necessary?

Now that Olbermann is gone, it would be nice if this turd followed. Fat chance.
Unfortunately, Rush is a long-running establishment in radio media. IMHO, he foments hateful rhetoric and ignorance to his mass audience. It's really sad state of reality when someone like him gets paid millions so he can stir up the disenfranchised and in turn, mislead them to acquiesce to the power base of the very power party that keeps the disenfranchised down.

On the other hand, having MSNBC let go Olbermann... says something about the man, however off-putting he may be to some, who is described as "anti-establishment" by the media, and a "left-leaning" corporation that cannot put up with his "self-righteous" passion and sensibilties.

Though some may compare him to O'Reilly and other Fox counterparts, at least, Olbermann can back up his facts and call out those who are "misinformed." ... I've seen him disagree with his guests at times, but he takes it civilly and doesn't get into a shouting debate match (like some on Fox). He just lets his expertise guests to illuminate his points and inquiries.

I think his "obnoxiousness" appears in his TV personality serves the news with biting sarcasm and "arrogance"/"deep convictions/passion"... He can hit the nail on the truth and serve it with a sting uncomfortable for most to admit.

In any case, I think what I'm trying to get at is... if a "left-leaning" corporation can't stand a left "extremist" who sets his own program... then that makes Olbermann an "intellectual rebel."

Unlike Beck and O'Reilly, Olbermann knows which fights to pick and when to bow out.

In the end, he signed off civilly, with class and gratitude.
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The important stuff here is really not Keith Blowhard-berman (eugh) being off the air.

It's not about Fox News.

It's not about MSNBC.

It's about Comcast and however much they contributed to your local politicians' campaigns recently, regardless of party affiliations.

They'll be gunning for Netflix next. Comcast is a cable provider, they built a shit-ton of infrastructure to provide net service, and now they're going to push their internet preferences on you. Hey, remember how you hated paying too much for a cable package? This will be your internet service in several years. Want Youtube/Vevo, uStream, etc? Gotta buy 'em bundled with the Premium Service bundle!

Hey maybe if the American public gets their Netflix Queue or Redbox inalienable rights infringed on they'll actually give a shit about the money flowing into Washington instead of being drawn into the left v. right smokescreen.
I was wondering why this story wasn't making the news more, I've been rather nervous about this idea, too. It amazes me that so many monopolies continue to pop up despite the idea that they're technically not really, you know, legal. Or at least, they're supposed to be frowned upon.

That's really depressing if that scenario will be what it takes to get people to finally pay attention.

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Might be because there's a whole heap of mess in the bundle... monopoly, net neutrality, freedom of speech, fettered dissemination of information flow, voices being heard or suppressed, have and have-nots, political power plays... all under the command of one big corp.

In its extreme, might as well make everyone give up on entertainment media... and return to ancient days of becoming involved in home community and personal connections... OMG!
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Unfortunately, Rush is a long-running establishment in radio media. IMHO, he foments hateful rhetoric and ignorance to his mass audience. It's really sad state of reality when someone like him gets paid millions so he can stir up the disenfranchised and in turn, mislead them to acquiesce to the power base of the very power party that keeps the disenfranchised down.

On the other hand, having MSNBC let go Olbermann... says something about the man, however off-putting he may be to some, who is described as "anti-establishment" by the media, and a "left-leaning" corporation that cannot put up with his "self-righteous" passion and sensibilties.

Though some may compare him to O'Reilly and other Fox counterparts, at least, Olbermann can back up his facts and call out those who are "misinformed." ... I've seen him disagree with his guests at times, but he takes it civilly and doesn't get into a shouting debate match (like some on Fox). He just lets his expertise guests to illuminate his points and inquiries.

I think his "obnoxiousness" appears in his TV personality serves the news with biting sarcasm and "arrogance"/"deep convictions/passion"... He can hit the nail on the truth and serve it with a sting uncomfortable for most to admit.

In any case, I think what I'm trying to get at is... if a "left-leaning" corporation can't stand a left "extremist" who sets his own program... then that makes Olbermann an "intellectual rebel."

Unlike Beck and O'Reilly, Olbermann knows which fights to pick and when to bow out.

In the end, he signed off civilly, with class and gratitude.
wonderful post, solemole.

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I was wondering why this story wasn't making the news more, I've been rather nervous about this idea, too. It amazes me that so many monopolies continue to pop up despite the idea that they're technically not really, you know, legal. Or at least, they're supposed to be frowned upon.

That's really depressing if that scenario will be what it takes to get people to finally pay attention.
exactly. i suppose they buy the right kind of companies - a company will own a cable service, couple tv stations (one free-to-air and a couple cable channels), isp...a little bit of everything in the entertainment industry. somehow this is okay but every cable channel merging into one isn't.

it's high time everyone stepped back and looked at how much shit (for example) time warner owns. sure they don't own every tv station or whatever example you want to pick, but these conglomerates own enough to do exactly what canadiens mentioned. it's not like i want everything to be separate and run out of tiny bedrooms, but it shouldn't be allowed to get to the huge state it is now.

maybe it should get to that state so finally the average person will give a damn. no 12 year old is going to want to pay to be able to upload a video of themselves in their boxers rapping along to some random song.
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Hey maybe if the American public gets their Netflix Queue or Redbox inalienable rights infringed on they'll actually give a shit about the money flowing into Washington instead of being drawn into the left v. right smokescreen.
No shit.


Has the word "monopoly" been uttered by anyone in the last ten years?
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This should be like hostage trading - now Fox have to throw one overboard.
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good... maybe he can go back to doing sports now. he was better at that.
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This should be like hostage trading - now Fox have to throw one overboard.
Why? It's a false choice. I've heard the "We'll get rid of MSNBC if you get rid of FNC" argument a number of times from the left, and I don't know what good it would do anybody.

Fox is booming. MSNBC is failing. I think that's all there is to it.
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Not happy about this at all. Yeah, Keith is a blowhard, but it's entertaining television. And it seems this is about Comcast taking over which really sends a chill down my spine.

At least there's still Rachel Maddow. She's great.

Also we will always have this. Ben Affleck is Keith Olbermann

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This should be like hostage trading - now Fox have to throw one overboard.
If only that were true. Bye Glenn!
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:57 AM   #26
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I've never thought there's anything wrong with blatantly biased news organisations. Bias in the media has, to state the obvious, been around forever. With these incarnations, it's open, it's obvious, who cares. But blatantly stupid news organisations do no-one any favours. So my beef with Fox and MSNBC would not be anything to with overt political bias, but all to do with overt dumbing down. And CNN has been stupid enough to follow - its a shadow of what it was ten years ago.
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They'll be gunning for Netflix next. Comcast is a cable provider, they built a shit-ton of infrastructure to provide net service, and now they're going to push their internet preferences on you. Hey, remember how you hated paying too much for a cable package? This will be your internet service in several years. Want Youtube/Vevo, uStream, etc? Gotta buy 'em bundled with the Premium Service bundle!
I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread about Net Neutrality yet.
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I don't know how people can say or think that Olbermann is "entertaining" and yet call Limbaugh "obnoxious" in the same sentence. If you ask me, both are about the same, just to different extremes. Glenn Beck too....they are mostly all annoying, arrogant, crazy douchebags.

Bill Maher, on the other hand, now that guys is funny. And he makes no secret of his intentions. Colberet and Stewart are good as well, but they are not Bill Maher.

I don't really know why the Republicans don't have someone as entertaining, likeable, yet on point like the left does. I suppose the potential humor would go against the traditional right's penchant for wrapping everything up in Jesus with their "3 - G's"
(God, Gun's, & Gays). I suspect that Bill O'Rielly is the best thing the right has got, maybe even Dennis Miller *if* he had a bigger voice.

Yeah Olbermann gone....no big loss there....sorry.
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I think Sean Hannity is hilarious. Seriously. he never breaks character. GENIUS.
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