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Old 01-19-2008, 09:53 AM   #16
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Michigan thinking it could make it on its own.

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There's actually more talk of a "North American Union" similar to the EU, with the free flow of labor, capital, and goods and possibly one currency.
We don't all have to take Canadian weather, do we?
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:33 PM   #19
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We don't all have to take Canadian weather, do we?
No, but you do have to keep Celine Dion. We don't want her back.
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Old 01-19-2008, 02:20 PM   #20
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Im not racist or anything but when i read this it reminded me of something i learnt in a History lesson about someone wanting to give black people texas like racial segregation or something.

Who's idea was it or am i going crazy
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:45 PM   #22
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I'd be surprised if it happened in our lifetime. But could it happen? It could. But how likely?
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Old 01-19-2008, 04:28 PM   #23
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When I was little, like 7 or 8 years old, I used to think the US would split up. I would make up the new countries on my maps. For some reason, I have a feeling that at least one state would try to break away sometime in my life.
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Old 01-20-2008, 02:25 PM   #24
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I've also heard that New Jersey is finally fed up with all the toxic waste jokes and has been thinking about seceding as well. Then they're going to elect Springsteen as their first president.
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Not even that could make me move there.
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:58 PM   #26
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When I was little, like 7 or 8 years old, I used to think the US would split up. I would make up the new countries on my maps. For some reason, I have a feeling that at least one state would try to break away sometime in my life.

was 1996 in your lifetime?
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The Montana Freemen were a Christian Patriot group based in Montana, United States, near the town of Jordan. The Montana Freemen believed in the doctrine of individual sovereignty as expounded by the Sovereign Citizen Movement, and rejected the authority of the U.S. Federal Government. As a result of these beliefs, they attempted to set up their own parallel systems of government ("Justus Township"), common-law court, banking, and credit. They became publicly known during their 81-day-long standoff with U.S. Federal Marshals from March 25 through June 13, 1996.

Leroy Schweitzer and the Freemen used Anderson on the Uniform Commercial Code, a Bankers Handbook and various other materials related to the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) to file notices of liens against public officials. The purported liens were then allegedly sold to generate equity to fund efforts of the Freeman to make a "firm offer to pay off the national debt". The Freemen believed that the liens conformed to the UCC, and that their "Justus Township" court had an interest in a tort claim for damages, or for damages incurred by the named public officials for violations of their oaths of office. The Freeman viewed the public officials's support and support of the credit system as a non-constitutional act that was "...depriving the people of their property until our posterity wakes up homeless...".

Their efforts, from the Freeman perspective, raised the awareness of what the Freemen viewed as the never ending perpetual national debt fiat credit system, and of the relationship of that system to inflation and price manipulations that the Freemen believed were financially undermining and bankrupting the private individual class of farmers and ranchers. Laws were subsequently changed in Montana,[citation needed] and eventually elsewhere,[citation needed] to require that any liens filed had to have a current county judge or clerk signature to be held valid as "commercial paper" which can be sold or traded.
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^^^I remember hearing about this.

But when I say I expect some states to try to break away in my lifetime, I don't expect some radical groups to try that (ETA: though I'm sure there would be plenty of them). I expect something legitimate like in Vermont, only having larger support.
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I think it will be a real long time before we see a whole state.


Perhaps, sometime in the future, Hawaii?
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Old 01-20-2008, 06:24 PM   #29
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Why not? It's too far away from the mainland. My parents went there recently and they say there's a sense in Hawaii that it is not part of the US, as in its is own country.

How about Alaska as well? That is also too far away from the mainland to be considered, I believe, part of America.

What could happen is those two states ask to be autocratic, something like Canada and Australia are to the UK. They'll still be under American sovereignty, but be independent countries.
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What could happen is those two states ask to be autocratic, something like Canada and Australia are to the UK. They'll still be under American sovereignty, but be independent countries.
That's not the case at all. Canada and Australia - and the other Commonwealth countries - are all entirely sovereign and the UK does not exercise any sovereignty over them. Elizabeth II is separately Queen of the UK and, say, Queen of Australia.
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