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Old 07-04-2010, 01:41 PM   #16
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Penn State University panel clears global-warming scholar - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

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By Mike Cronin
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, July 2, 2010


A Penn State University panel of scientists on Thursday exonerated one of the school's researchers of accusations that his work on climate change violated the university's research misconduct policy.

After a four-month investigation, five university professors unanimously cleared professor Michael Mann, a climate scientist and one of several hundred researchers sharing the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for their work with the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

The Penn State investigators concluded in a report released yesterday that "Mann did not engage in, nor did he participate in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting, or reporting research, or other scholarly activities."

"I am pleased that the last phase of Penn State's investigation has now been concluded, and that it has cleared me of any wrongdoing," Mann wrote in an e-mail. "These latest findings should finally put to rest the baseless allegations against me and my research."

Mann's work was chronicled in the 2006 documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," about former Vice President Al Gore's public campaign on global warming.

The film showed a graph Mann created, commonly called the "hockey stick" because of its shape, that depicts global temperatures skyrocketing during the past century. It appeared in the U.N. panel's 2001 report. Global-warming skeptics criticized the graph and Mann's research methods.

A controversy erupted in November when a hacker published e-mails obtained from computer servers at the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in England and published them on the Internet.

The e-mails contained at least 10 years of communication among climate-change researchers, including Mann.

In one e-mail, Phil Jones, former director of the Climatic Research Unit, who resigned after the e-mails became public, asked Mann to delete e-mails he wrote to another scientist. Mann said he did not comply and did not delete any e-mails.

Penn State chose to investigate because the e-mail incident "raised questions in the public's mind about Dr. Mann's conduct of his research activity," and those questions could undermine confidence in Mann, science and climate science.

Supporters and critics of Mann's work responded swiftly to the Penn State decision.

"It's about time," said Francesca Grifo, director of the Union of Concerned Scientists scientific integrity program, speaking from Washington.

"Now, let this man get back to work," Grifo said. "When is this witch hunt going to stop? A lot of this type of research is funded by taxpayer dollars. I'd rather have my taxpayer dollars spent on research than utter nonsense."

But Richard S. Lindzen, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor of meteorology who disagrees with Mann's work, called the school's investigation a "whitewash." Lindzen was interviewed by the Penn State panel during its investigation.

"Penn State has clearly demonstrated that it is incapable of monitoring violations of scientific standards of behavior internally," Lindzen said in an e-mail from France.

School officials in February dismissed other allegations against Mann that questioned whether he suppressed or falsified data, deleted or concealed e-mails, or misused privileged or confidential information.

Virginia Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II served University of Virginia Rector John O. Wynne on April 23 with a civil investigative demand for documents related to grants Mann obtained during his time as an assistant professor at the school. Mann worked at the university from 1999 until 2005, when he joined Penn State's faculty.

"We will address any arguments that the University of Virginia has posed when we file our court brief on July 13," said Cuccinelli's spokesman, Brian Gottstein, in an e-mail. "We do not intend to address issues outside of the courtroom."
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Old 07-04-2010, 01:46 PM   #17
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So what are Oscar and Glenn Beck going to do?

Beck has long blown this up. Joe says he actually has the whole thing . He does.

van Jones still at the white house? Where in Anita Dunn? The NEA guy, where did he go?

Why is Maurice Strong hiding in China?

Why doesn't Al Gore do interviews?

Shore Bank?

UN Agenda 21

George Soros ( a lovely man )

where did Jim Wallis go?

Tides Foundation

Drummond Pike

Does Obama still talk with Rev Wright ? um hmmm

Media matters=Joke

Why does Franklin Raines have investments in CCE?

Does Obama really know his neighbor from a cup of coffee years ago?

This list could be very, very long also

It's hard to not know the agenda when Horwitz, and Morris have switched sides.

Why will the WH staff never call and correct Beck? They have a private line, can call any time. Even during his show. If he is wrong, why don't they call?
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Funded by taxpayer dollars? No it's not, it's funded by me. The state doesn't give Penn State jackshit. It's the most expensive tuition for a public university in the country.
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Funded by taxpayer dollars? No it's not, it's funded by me. The state doesn't give Penn State jackshit. It's the most expensive tuition for a public university in the country.
Dunno what Penn State's books look like, but at UCLA only about 10% of the total budget comes from tuition. The biggest chunk of it comes from federal grants (i.e., from taxpayers).
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34% of Penn State's budget comes from tuition, which is the biggest chunk.
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despite how bad this looks for the denialists, it appears that "climategate" already did what it was intended to do, especially in the UK.


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A lie can get halfway around the world while the truth is still putting its boots on, as Mark Twain said (or “before the truth gets a chance to put its pants on,” in Winston Churchill’s version), and nowhere has that been more true than in "climategate." In that highly orchestrated, manufactured scandal, e-mails hacked from computers at the University of East Anglia’s climate-research group were spread around the Web by activists who deny that human activity is altering the world’s climate in a dangerous way, and spun so as to suggest that the scientists had been lying, cheating, and generally cooking the books.

But not only did British investigators clear the East Anglia scientist at the center of it all, Phil Jones, of scientific impropriety and dishonesty in April, an investigation at Penn State cleared PSU climatologist Michael Mann of “falsifying or suppressing data, intending to delete or conceal e-mails and information, and misusing privileged or confidential information” in February. In perhaps the biggest backpedaling, The Sunday Times of London, which led the media pack in charging that IPCC reports were full of egregious (and probably intentional) errors, retracted its central claim—namely, that the IPCC statement that up to 40 percent of the Amazonian rainforest could be vulnerable to climate change was “unsubstantiated.” The Times also admitted that it had totally twisted the remarks of one forest expert to make it sound as if he agreed that the IPCC had screwed up, when he said no such thing.


It’s worth quoting the retraction at some length:

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The article "UN climate panel shamed by bogus rainforest claim" (News, Jan 31) stated that the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report had included an “unsubstantiated claim” that up to 40% of the Amazon rainforest could be sensitive to future changes in rainfall. The IPCC had referenced the claim to a report prepared for the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) by Andrew Rowell and Peter Moore, whom the article described as “green campaigners” with “little scientific expertise.” The article also stated that the authors’ research had been based on a scientific paper that dealt with the impact of human activity rather than climate change.

In fact, the IPCC’s Amazon statement is supported by peer-reviewed scientific evidence. In the case of the WWF report, the figure . . . was based on research by the respected Amazon Environmental Research Institute (IPAM) which did relate to the impact of climate change. We also understand and accept that . . . Dr Moore is an expert in forest management, and apologise for any suggestion to the contrary.

The article also quoted criticism of the IPCC’s use of the WWF report by Dr Simon Lewis, a Royal Society research fellow at the University of Leeds and leading specialist in tropical forest ecology. We accept that, in his quoted remarks, Dr Lewis was making the general point that both the IPCC and WWF should have cited the appropriate peer-reviewed scientific research literature. As he made clear to us at the time, including by sending us some of the research literature, Dr Lewis does not dispute the scientific basis for both the IPCC and the WWF reports’ statements on the potential vulnerability of the Amazon rainforest to droughts caused by climate change. . . . A version of our article that had been checked with Dr Lewis underwent significant late editing and so did not give a fair or accurate account of his views on these points. We apologise for this.
In another retraction you never heard of, a paper in Frankfurt took back (apologies; the article is available only in German) its reporting that the IPCC had erred in its assessment of climate impacts in Africa.

The Times's criticism of the IPCC—look, its reports are full of mistakes and shoddy scholarship!—was widely picked up at the time it ran, and has been an important factor in turning British public opinion sharply against the established science of climate change. Don’t expect the recent retractions and exonerations to change that. One of the strongest, most-repeated findings in the psychology of belief is that once people have been told X, especially if X is shocking, if they are later told, “No, we were wrong about X,” most people still believe X. As Twain and Churchill knew, sometimes the truth never catches up with the lie, let alone overtakes it. As I wrote last summer in a story about why people believe lies even when they’re later told the truth, sometimes people’s mental processes simply go off the rails.

Newspapers Retract 'Climategate' Claims, but Damage Still Done - Newsweek
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despite how bad this looks for the denialists, it appears that "climategate" already did what it was intended to do, especially in the UK.
It's this one for me.

"40 percent of the Amazonian rainforest could be vulnerable to climate change was “unsubstantiated"

100% of the rainforest IS vulnerable to the cattle farmers, and wood harvesting, and it will be long gone before the climate gets it.

Where is the outrage at that by the Global people?
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It's this one for me.

"40 percent of the Amazonian rainforest could be vulnerable to climate change was “unsubstantiated"

100% of the rainforest IS vulnerable to the cattle farmers, and wood harvesting, and it will be long gone before the climate gets it.

Where is the outrage at that by the Global people?
Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the
world's scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a
major catastrophe that could send our entire planet's climate system
into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods,
droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have
ever experienced - a catastrophe of our own making."
- Al Gore,
An Inconvenient Truth

Global Warming – Settled Science?

With the continual bombardment of ‘climate doom’ stories today, it is hard to imagine a time when global warming was not a ‘top priority’ on the social, political and economic agenda. Everything from floods in England to poverty in the Third World is now being blamed on global warming. However, it is a relatively new phenomenon, barely discussed until 20 years ago, and established as a significant policy issue only in the past 15 or so years.

Usually a scientific theory takes many decades to become established, and only after the most rigorous testing under many different scenarios, does it achieve ‘scientific consensus’. However, when it comes to Global Warming its proponents claim that there is no argument or debate to be had. Their current crusade is to turn Global Warming into something that supposedly no honest and decent person can disagree about, as they have already done with ‘environmental sustainability’. Al Gore often says “Climate change is a moral issue.” In other words it is all about you, and your destructive behaviour.

The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has confidently announced ‘the science is settled’ on man-made Global Warming. Their most recent set of reports declares that “the debate over the science of climate change is well and truly over. Unified international political commitment is now urgently required to take action to avoid dangerous climate change.

However, the science is not settled. Many renowned climatologists strongly disagree with the IPCC’s conclusions about the cause and potential magnitude of Global Warming. More than 20,000 scientists have now signed the Oregon Petition which criticises it as ‘flawed’ research and states that “any human contribution to climate change has not yet been demonstrated.” Dr Chris Landsea resigned from the IPCC because he “personally could not in good faith continue to contribute to a process that I view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scientifically unsound.”

The IPCC claims that more than 2,500 respected scientists and policy makers collaborate to write its climate change assessments but less than a tenth of these ‘experts’ actually hold qualifications in climatology, most were in fact educated in the political and social sciences. The panel that edits and approves the reports are appointed by the United Nations, and more than half are actually UN officials. Dr Richard Lindzen, who is a genuine climate expert, resigned from the IPCC process after his contributions were completely rewritten by the panel.

"It's not 2,500 people offering their consensus, I participated in that. Each person who is an author writes one or two pages in conjunction with someone else. They travel around the world several times a year for several years to write it and the summary for policymakers has the input of a handful of scientists, but ultimately, it is written by representatives of governments, and of environmental organizations, each pushing their own agenda." - MIT's Professor of Atmospheric Science Dr. Richard Lindzen on the IPCC report.

Czech President Klaus stated “It is not fair to refer to the UN panel as a group of scientists. The IPCC is not a scientific institution. It's a political body, a sort of non-government organization of green flavour. It's neither a forum of neutral scientists nor a balanced group of scientists. These people are politicized scientists, and UN bureaucrats, who arrive there with a one-sided opinion and a one-sided assignment."

Asserting ‘the science is settled’ ignores the debate that still rages, and the constant shrieking by alarmists like Al Gore reveals that Global Warming is being used to push a hidden agenda. They are not really interested in the science at all. Even their much vaunted consensus is a myth. The Global Warming Petition Project has been signed by more than 31,000 American scientists, including more than 9,000 with PhDs. Signers include world renowned physicists such as Prof. Edward Teller and Prof. Freeman Dyson. Nearly 4,000 signers are scientists trained in specialties directly related to the physical environment of the Earth and the past and current phenomena that affect that environment.

The petition states: “There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.” Proclaiming that “climate change is real” is a nonsensical statement and ignores the Earth’s continual natural warming and cooling cycles. Vikings settled in Greenland and raised crops and cattle 1000 years ago, while Britons grew grapes in England. Four hundred years later, Greenland froze and the Vikings starved. Europe was gripped in a Little Ice Age. The Thames froze all the way up to London. Another surge in temperatures saw widespread global droughts in the mid-1600s. Temperatures plunged again around 1700’s. The globe warmed in 1800-1940, cooled for the next 35 years, then warmed again. The 1940-1975 cooling period occurred despite the fact that industrial production and release of CO2 vastly accelerated during this time. This led to political and media scaremongering about Global Cooling, and the threat of a new ice age.

Again, this arose out of a misunderstanding of long term temperature fluctuations. Scientists have discovered that the sun not only has a regular 11 year cycle of sunspot activity. They have now discovered a significant 200 year cycle. Sunspot and solar radiation activity almost exactly parallel temperature changes on the Earth. It correlates well with the anomalous post-war temperature dip, when global carbon dioxide levels were rising very fast. The increase in solar radiation prevents the formation of clouds, which have a cooling effect on the planet, therefore the temperature rises.







Other recent studies, published in Nature and other leading journals, conclude that the sun’s radiant heat and solar radiation levels affect planetary warming and cloud formation more strongly than acknowledged by Global Warming alarmists. After all, why would natural forces that caused the climate to change in past centuries suddenly stop now? And how does man-made Global Warming explain why every planet in our solar system appears to be simultaneously warming up? Does this not suggest that Global Warming is a natural cycle as a result of the dynamic nature of the sun?
Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists: Astronomers today said Pluto is undergoing global warming in its thin atmosphere even as it moves farther from the Sun on its long, odd-shaped orbit.” - Space.com

Global Warming on Mars? A study of the ice caps on Mars may show that the red planet is experiencing a warming trend. If both Mars and Earth are experiencing global warming, then perhaps there is a larger phenomenon going on in the Solar System that is causing their global climates to change.” - National Geographic

NASA says its Cassini spacecraft has found a hurricane-like storm at Saturn's South Pole, nearly 5,000 miles across - or two-thirds Earth's diameter.” - New Scientist

"Global Warming Detected on Triton: At least since 1989, Triton has been undergoing a period of global warming," confirms astronomer James Elliot, professor of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT. "Percentage-wise, it's a very large increase."

New Storm on Jupiter Hints at Climate Change: The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe.” - Space.com

The Earth is getting hotter because the Sun is burning more brightly than at any time during the past 1,000 years, according to new research published in the prestigious science journal Nature.” - London Telegraph
In truth we still know very little about how the Sun really operates. This is one of the reasons why I cringe when global warming alarmists categorically state that the sun could not possibly be the cause of any slight warming that has been observed on earth. A new type of telescope developed by the Japanese has revealed all sorts of energy patterns and violent eruptions that could not previously be observed, and their effect on earth is unknown.

A Japanese space telescope called Hinode has achieved success in revealing certain surprising characteristics of the Sun, previously not known to humans. Among the characteristics revealed is the restless bubbling and frothing of the Sun's chaotic surface, which has astonished astronomers around the world. "Everything we thought we knew about X-ray images of the Sun is now out of date," scientists told a NASA press conference in Washington on Wednesday.

According to Leon Golub from the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, US. "We've seen many new and unexpected things. For that reason alone, the mission is already a success." Hinode has sent back startling images of the Sun's outer limb. Where astronomers expected to see a calm region called the chromosphere, they saw a seething mass of swaying spikes. Another surprise sighting is that of giant magnetic field loops crashing down onto the Sun's surface as if they were collapsing from exhaustion, a finding that Golub describes as "impossible".
http://news.sawf.org/Health/34957.aspx

Recently another unexpected solar phenomenon was observed:

Astronomers have captured the first footage of a solar "tsunami" hurtling through the Sun's atmosphere at over a million kilometres per hour. Details were reported at the UK National Astronomy Meeting in Belfast. In a solar tsunami, a huge explosion near the Sun, such as a coronal mass ejection or flare, causes a pressure pulse to propagate outwards in a circular pattern. Last year's solar tsunami, which took place on 19 May 2007, lasted for about 35 minutes, reaching peak speeds about 20 minutes after the initial blast. Co-author David Long commented: "The energy released in these explosions is phenomenal; about two billion times the annual world energy consumption in just a fraction of a second.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7326097.stm

Apart from ignoring the giant ball of fire in the sky, Global Warming alarmists also overlook a few other inconvenient truths. They ignore the fact the natural emissions of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere far exceed human contributions. In fact humans contribute a measly 0.035% of the total annual carbon flux. Any system that can be perturbed by such a tiny fluctuation would be very unstable indeed. They also ignore the fact that water vapour is by far the most dominant greenhouse gas. The atmosphere consists of 40,000 ppm of water vapour, whereas carbon dioxide weighs in at a miniscule 380 ppm. Instead they rely on dubious computer models that the IPCC itself admits exclude complex parts of the climate system that they don’t yet understand.

Sometime in the late 1990s activists decided to abandon the name Global Warming and switched instead to Climate Change. This has two advantages. It allows them to seize as ‘evidence’ the inevitable occurrences of unusually cold weather as well as warm ones. The climate is always changing, but now any storm, hurricane, tornado, flood, frost or drought is instantly used as “proof that our climate is changing!

Global Warming has almost become religious dogma for many in the green movement. High priest Al Gore demands that we accept a "scientific truth" in which no doubt is allowed, blind faith and acceptance is our only option. They label anyone who questions their claims to be “climate deniers”, a cheap and quite despicable comparison to Holocaust deniers. There is a sustained campaign to prevent these heretics from having any sort of public platform for their views. Every scientist who manifests disbelief can expect to be the target of abuse from self-appointed protectors of the planet.

Al Gore’s Live Earth concerts were one of the most blatant attempts at mass manipulation and brainwashing that I have ever witnessed. The broadcast continually urged viewers to “Answer the Call” and “Save Our Selves”. Films clips were shown of New York City hundreds of feet under water. One clip was titled “A contract with Satan”. Another showed a man eating the last piece of ice on earth. Very subliminal!

As in other forms of mental conditioning, continual reinforcement is a necessary part of the process and that is where ritual comes in. Switching off our VCR’s at the wall every night, cycling to work, sacrificing our humble incandescent light-bulbs, anxiously calculating our carbon footprints, it all helps to soothe our guilt and makes us feel like we are doing our part.

In medieval times the Catholic Pardoner sold Papal Indulgences, which freed the prosperous from the consequences of sin. They were able to indulge in carnal pleasures as long as they could pay the price. Likewise, the new pardoners sell carbon offsets. Soon every time you commit the sin of driving your car you will be forced pay the price for ‘wounding the planet’. Some faceless company will agree to plant an imaginary tree to atone for your climate crimes.

The hoax of the man-made Global Warming is being imposed on the world by many methods, both subtle and blatant. Proponents of the Global Green Agenda have embarked on a programme of mass deception, while scientists who attempt to blow the whistle on the fraud are silenced, tarred, ridiculed and fired. The Gaian cult that has permeated the United Nations is using the hysteria of Global Warming to impose draconian control measures on society and centralise world power. They intend to use this fabricated crisis, and any other crisis that might arise, to further their plan for “a sustainable global human society living in harmony with Gaia.” They have declared "the science is settled" on the man-made origins of Global Warming. Real scientists know that science is never settled. We have seen it all before.
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There are ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change and cool dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production - with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon. The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it.” - Newsweek, April 28, (1975)

This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.” - Lowell Ponte "The Cooling" (1976)

The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population.” - Reid Bryson, Global Ecology (1971)

The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer.” - Prof. Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)

In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.” - Prof. Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

This cooling trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century.” - Peter Gwynne, climatologist, Newsweek (1976)

If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.” - Kenneth Watt, Earth Day (1970)

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What are the odds that you just happened to type an essay identical from this strange site?

Global Warming - Settled Science?

Are you a plagiarist?
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Are you a plagiarist?

Nope. I know who he is though. It is one person There is a reason he doesnt have his name on it.. Like employment.

We have an agreement part of which I don't indentify him. Everything on that page is in the UN website. he has done a fantastic job of research over the years. He knows by virtue of what his profession is.

Read it and then check it out yourself. It fits. His personal views are held sperate, and I have no feeling on them one way or another except for respect for him to have them


The information is correct.

So sorry, no Plagerism. You think I typed that? Please.

He has a "bio up" and that is the extent of information he wants to provide. Check it out. It is factually correct.

You should see part B

Autors name witheld by request .... Feel better? Doesnt change what this is.
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haha, lots of truth to that.
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You posted a huge quantity of text without giving any citation and I think that makes you a plagiarist. The article had all of the same half-baked talking points which have been discredited before:
- Medieval Warm Period
- Solar cycles
- Climate change on other planets
- Environmentalism is a religion

The whole point of this tactic is to spread doubt that climate change is well supported science to further an economic agenda.

Debates in the scientific community are infinitely more productive and valuable than misrepresentations and denialism. They get closer to the truth whilst the propaganda is designed to muddy the waters.
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i'd love to know where this is posted on the un website, but i think i'll be waiting a long time for the link.
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What are the odds that you just happened to type an essay identical from this strange site?

Global Warming - Settled Science?

Are you a plagiarist?
Strange in that you don't agree with it ? He quotes and links everything .

want to see his part on the Rio summit? or you can read it yourself.

They did fantastic research . took them years
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