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Old 08-23-2013, 11:12 PM   #76
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I think there's a little difference between cold-blooded murder and self-defense don't you?
Of course. In fact, I understand what Zimmerman did, even as I feel he should nevertheless be held to account for his actions. I can't fathom what these kids did. So it was inaccurate of me to say I feel the "same".

For the record, I've generally avoided imputing racism to Zimmerman's motives (at least of the conscious kind). My posts throughout the forum speak for themselves.


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I might add that he was only arrested after a while due to pressure created by the media. The same media that was caught reporting mis-information and editing the 911 tapes.


I haven't heard too much from the same media regarding these 2 killings though. And again, where is president Obama's statement on the Chris Lane killing, which is an international incident. He was pretty quick to jump on the Zimmerman case with the "could've been my son" statements, where is he on these?

Let me try it again. Double standard anyone?
It's interesting that you cherry picked two statements from my post that were tangential at best to my main point, and disregarded the main point all together.

It's clear, you've already made up your mind about what's going on here and I doubt that there's much I could do to change it. Carry on.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:13 PM   #77
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. I get embarrassed to be white and to be an American sometimes

Well, you sure have your liberal cap on!
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:14 PM   #78
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So I guess the implication is that Zimmerman did it "just for the fun of it" also?

These are radically different situations. If you go backs be, you know, read the Zimmerman thread, you'll find some nuanced discussion

But go ahead -- put word in my mouth and thoughts in my head. Little I can do about it and its the only way you can continue.
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Well, you sure have your liberal cap on!


And you have your ignorant cap on.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:16 PM   #81
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Fuck that.

If these kids are acquitted, maybe then you'll have a point.
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Thank you for saying calmly what I would have said sarcastically.
Something to be said for brevity though. You said basically the same thing, much more concisely.

I've always tended to be wordy. . . .
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Something to be said for brevity though. You said basically the same thing, much more concisely.

I've always tended to be wordy. . . .
I've had too much to drink to respond in this thread. I'm out at a big gay party. So I'll stop now.

But, God, talk about people talking past each other. Sheesh.

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Old 08-23-2013, 11:21 PM   #83
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And you have your ignorant cap on.

I thought it was gonna be my racist cap.

But that's a good one too. People with liberal caps like to throw around both words equally.

And I've found that the people that are best at sarcasm dont have to brag about how sarcastic they are.
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I've always tended to be wordy. . . .
Don't hide from that - it's one the things I love about you. I'm glad you entered the thread and offered your perspective.

Is it possible to address the "gangsta" culture in any constructive, yet large-scale manner?
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I've had too much to drink to respond in this thread.
Wise choice - I wish I would always follow this advice.
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Sean - have you heard of this charity? I was thinking of possibly doing some work with them in LA (you've inspired me with your work). I've done some programming for them in the past. Even though they are more "evangelical" than I prefer, they seem to have a good system in place.

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Lawn darts are illegal.

Lawn darts.
I remember when I was kid...we're talking early 80's here, I was maybe 7 or 8 or something, my aunt got me and my brother some lawn darts.

My mother had a total fit. Enough for me to remember. And I don't remember shit from that age. It was a real scare, from what I recall. I guess some kids were killed or maimed or something. Those things were totally dangerous.

Of course, I get what you're saying. Our gun culture is bizarre.
I am surrounded by it and I while I understand things about it (not empathetic, just knowledge), there is so much I completely don't understand. I am a proponent of sane gun regulation. Handguns, fine. Semi-autos, not.
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I knew a kid in highschool that took an actual dart in the eye. They were fucking about and he somehow stood in front of the board when someone threw it. Lost 90% of the vision in that eye
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