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Old 04-10-2009, 10:14 AM   #16
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Xenophobic nonsense, I like Chinese immigrants a lot more than nativist pricks, in Australia they generally drive around with the southern cross on their cars, utter wankers.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:30 PM   #17
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Since most Chinese languages are tonal and Western ears can't 'hear' tonality unless we've studied it, I'd imagine Chinese immigrants to the West would indeed have to put up with rather severe mispronunciations of their names on a constant basis. Not all of my Chinese students choose to use an 'English name,' and while I always try my best the first day of class to listen very carefully to how they pronounce their names so that I can at least get the vowels and consonants roughly right, I kinda take for granted that I'm still butchering a lot of those names, if nothing else because the tones aren't right. It's really a personal choice between settling for an inevitably-somewhat-Anglicized pronunciation of your name, or choosing a different name altogether.
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:36 PM   #18
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Arnt most chinese names in the western world already Romanised? Speaks volumes that they'd ask them to do this, why dont they educate themselves instead of being lazy?
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:59 PM   #19
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Arnt most chinese names in the western world already Romanised? Speaks volumes that they'd ask them to do this, why dont they educate themselves instead of being lazy?
Romanised? Well, they use what's called pinyin which takes the sound of Chinese characters and then use an approximation of what it sounds like using the English alphabet. This was implemented by the Chinese government many years ago, but use of Chinese characters still rule.

Fun fact: In Chinese Yao Ming's name is actually the reverse, but the media chose to write it this way for whatever reason.
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I think it would behoove Betty Brown to be less of an offensive idiot.
I think it would behoove people to use the word behoove more often.

What an awesome word.
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Romanised? Well, they use what's called pinyin which takes the sound of Chinese characters and then use an approximation of what it sounds like using the English alphabet. This was implemented by the Chinese government many years ago, but use of Chinese characters still rule.

Fun fact: In Chinese Yao Ming's name is actually the reverse, but the media chose to write it this way for whatever reason.
Well thats what I meant, couldnt think of a better description than "romanised".
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:28 PM   #22
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Xenophobic nonsense, I like Chinese immigrants a lot more than nativist pricks, in Australia they generally drive around with the southern cross on their cars, utter wankers.
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:09 PM   #23
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Speaks volumes that they'd ask them to do this, why dont they educate themselves instead of being lazy?
There's not really a "they" involved here, just one boneheaded local rep in the Texas state legislature who made these comments during the floor debate over a voter ID bill. The immediate problem under discussion was that, on account of some of the same factors we've discussed here--inconsistencies in transliteration, the practice of using 'English names' and so on--the legal documents, including IDs, of many newer Chinese-American citizens are not consistent in what they give as the person's name. Which can sometimes create problems with voter IDing, registration and so on. But needless to say, this rep's "solution" was cringe-inducingly insensitive to the real-life complexities of cultural and linguistic assimilation.
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This is appalling. People shouldn't be forced to change their names, it's their identity! And Chinese names are not impossible to pronounce, their spelling is just intimidating, imo (and I am not Chinese, btw).
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I had a friend in high school who'd just moved here with her family from China. At the time, she was still called by her Chinese name, Ye. We fell out of touch for several years, and then I found out she was working with my brother... under the name Yvonne. It annoys me, I can't get it into my head to call her that, to me she'll always be Ye, and I'm sure at home with her family she's still Ye...

Maybe I just think that Yvonne is a stupid name
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if English is good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for a Chinese immigrant.

simple as that.
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if English is good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for a Chinese immigrant.

simple as that.

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what does aptdot translate to in English?
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if English is good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for a Chinese immigrant.

simple as that.
you mean the jesus that existed when there was no english right? you know that "son-of-god" guy right?
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Since most Chinese languages are tonal and Western ears can't 'hear' tonality unless we've studied it, I'd imagine Chinese immigrants to the West would indeed have to put up with rather severe mispronunciations of their names on a constant basis. Not all of my Chinese students choose to use an 'English name,' and while I always try my best the first day of class to listen very carefully to how they pronounce their names so that I can at least get the vowels and consonants roughly right, I kinda take for granted that I'm still butchering a lot of those names, if nothing else because the tones aren't right. It's really a personal choice between settling for an inevitably-somewhat-Anglicized pronunciation of your name, or choosing a different name altogether.
this is pretty much why no one knows my "real" name. it's 5 simple letters, but if spoken incorrectly, it sounds flat and lifeless. not liking the way people who are unfamiliar with the language the name originated from pronounced it, i ended up choosing something that was simple for people to say. i don't hold it against folks for not being to say my name, but it's been so long since i've heard it that it would be nice to hear it more than just every blue moon.
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