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Old 09-07-2008, 04:42 PM   #16
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They are really the PC (progressive conservative) faction and the Reform/Alliance faction.
I was tempted to call it that, but I was thinking it wasn't technical enough, as there are still socially conservative Conservatives from non-Western provinces.
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:10 PM   #17
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I was tempted to call it that, but I was thinking it wasn't technical enough, as there are still socially conservative Conservatives from non-Western provinces.
Yeah, I guess that's sort of like how you can get very socially conservative areas of staunch blue states as well. Northern/rural Ontario, for example only votes the same way as the rest of the province when there is a tsunami election.
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:20 PM   #18
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I know basically nothing about Canadian politics. Just a very basic question...when you speak of 'conservative' and 'liberal' in the context of Canadian politics, do they mean the same as they do in American politics, or are they different?
I know you didn't ask this, but another difference is, as someone said earlier, here, we place the vote for our local representative (our Member of Parliament) as opposed to voting for the party leader, either the incumbent Prime Minister, or the leader of an opposing party. So, if you have someone who is a good local representative, someone who gets things done for your community, it's really difficult to unseat that person, even if the political tide has changed, and an opposing party becomes the flavour of the day.

Both our MP and MPP are Liberal, and have been in power for several election cycles. That won't change, they've done a great deal of good for our city.
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Both our MP and MPP are Liberal, and have been in power for several election cycles. That won't change, they've done a great deal of good for our city.
Yes, but is Hazel your mayor?
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Ha! No, it hasn't been quite that long!

Actually, our Mayor is a dickwad, and really needs to go. I'm in Brantford. Have you been paying attention to the Native land issues? Shameful.
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There is a rather well known Aboriginal law prof at the law school I attended and I think he's actually on sabbatical this year working on a number of issues there.

My parents are in Miss, and they lurve their Hazel.
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Good for him, they need all the help they can get. There really are a lot of prominent citizens and business owners on their side, though, as they should be, IMO. As is one of our former mayors, who will hopefully be reelected next time around.

I'm waiting for the army to get here and restore peace, any day now.
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The Canadian Election Discussion Thread

Well, Mr. Harper went against his own fixed-election date legislation and asked the Governor General to dissolve Parliament, resulting in an election on Oct. 14.

He's clearly seeking a majority government, but will end up with roughly the same minority as the last Parliament. The key will be how many seats the Conservatives win in Quebec, but I think the "swing" province may be Ontario. The Liberals will do better than expected there, I think.

Anyway, for Canadian political junkies like myself, October and November (U.S. election) will be heaven indeed.
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Hey BoMac

http://forum.interference.com/f199/l...in-189514.html

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Suggestion - maybe the title could be added to, to reflect the subject matter? Canadians are aware of what Borefest refers to, but others might not be.
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I had no idea Borefest meant the general election! I agree with VP, I think a title change is in order!
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But isn't that how the whole rest of the world refers to it?

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But isn't that how the whole rest of the world refers to it?

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If they only knew the extent of it, Yolland.
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I would like to defend my title! This will be a Borefest, and I for one think that it should be officially named that.

Just kidding, I just want the rights to Borefest to remain with me, maybe I'll sell them to the CBC, but they can't even afford to keep the HNIC theme song so I don't expect a large offer.
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The best part of yesterdays kickoff to the election was Jack Layton not attempting to hide his campaign stratagy. He isn't even hiding that he is stealing Obama's speaking points. He's all for change and hope, and no more of the same.

I agree with the NDP on issues that are very important to me, but this is just plain sad. I don't think he'll be the leader of the NDP after this election.
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