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Old 01-26-2011, 03:12 AM   #1
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Can Egypt hold it together? President's son, family flee to Britain

Egyptians follow Tunisians

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Can Egypt hold it together????
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:22 AM   #2
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i hope so! i'm meant to be heading over there in a few weeks
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:33 AM   #3
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And will it keep rolling?
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:37 AM   #4
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Has his son really fled? I thought that this was a rumor?

Also, the American hypocrisy here with respect to Egypt (as say, opposed to Tunisia) would be stunning were it not par for the course for US foreign policy.
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i hope so! i'm meant to be heading over there in a few weeks


this was my first thought as well. i'm tentatively planning a trip in 2012.

these things seem inspiring, but then you wonder if we'll get democratically elected clerics with 7th century worldviews.

for the US to publicly back the protesters would be bad for everyone involved.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:20 AM   #6
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I'm looking at a Mid-East trip in early 2012 too (not Egypt, but some mix of Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iran) - continual "Argh! Hold it together kids!" with daily stories predicting the imminent collapse of and/or descent into violent chaos and/or bombing of and/or apocalypse kicking off in relation to any of those countries. It's about me, right?

re US response to anything like this - damned if they do, damned if they don't. Or more to the point, its only going to look poor either way, and nothing to really gain either way, only lose really.
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I think this thread title should read "Can North Africa/Mid-East Hold It Together?" The riots and complaints are spreading from Algeria to Jordan.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:06 PM   #8
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Yes, although they shouldn't be closely linked together. Different reasons behind each, some linked (eg Egypt following/inspired by Tunisia), some not (the Lebanon protests would most likely have happened regardless, not linked at all except perhaps in giving some confidence - just a fluke of timing,) and then with each the situations from country to country are very, very different. Different beefs, different aims, different strengths, very different societies, social make up and structures in each country (with some united, some fractured), different relationships between the people and leadership, and/or leadership and control (e.g. military) etc etc. It certainly has nothing in common with (or wouldn't have anything in common with, if it actually were to kick off properly all over the place - no sign of that yet), to use a comparison I've seen around, the rolling removal of communism in Eastern Europe in 1989.
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It'll be fun when revolutions come to Europe.

I doubt if we have the balls, but one can live in hope.
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And please remember the Christians.
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Are you kidding me? You only care for Christians and no one else?

You're just looking to stir things up, because no one can be this close-minded.
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Obama Poised to Intensify U.S. Criticism of Egypt’s Mubarak
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Obama faces a dilemma in trying to balance support for ‘‘democratic aspirations,” given a risk that extremists will dominate, and continued backing of an ally who he took two years to win over and who shows little inclination to relinquish control.
Exhibit A why our propping up and supporting foreign governments is generally a really bad idea. Doesn't it tend to seem like when we do this, most of the time it never winds up ending well?

I hope the people of Egypt can finally start getting these issues resolved in some way that works for everybody. Again, as always, don't advocate violent protesting, some of the methods used and the threats that are causing the family to possibly flee I certainly don't approve of. But I'm glad they aren't just sitting back and letting these problems go unnoticed, too.

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ElBaradei returns to Egypt calling for democracy

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And please remember the Christians.

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