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Old 08-29-2012, 10:21 PM   #31
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No personal attacks please, better to just ignore than say this.
I apologize if that's what you understood that to be, but my post was directed at nobody and was still serious. In fact, I never really even picked a side. I'm not picking fun at people or mocking anyone... but look around.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:23 AM   #32
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I believe that Jesus of Nazareth was God.

I believe the Bible is God's message to us.

I know there's a lot of questions, seemingly contractions, things we
don't understand, and so forth.


But by faith I accept this mystery
As do I.


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Does this mean you have to believe the old testament was written by Moses?
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:46 AM   #34
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That said, it does a feel a little ugly in here tonight. . .
Seriously.

As for the topic at hand, gotta agree with Nye on this one. I too agree that it is possible to believe both in God and the concept of evolution. That said, if you want to learn the story of Creation, that's what churches and religious schools/classes are for. It is not a type of science, it is a religious worldview, so it doesn't belong in a discussion of scientific topics. I don't get why that's so hard for people to understand.

And the idea that people out there actually reject the notion of evolution altogether just floors me. Let's take a most basic example-what the hell do people think caterpillars turning into butterflies or tadpoles turning into frogs is, if not a type of evolution?
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:11 AM   #35
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As do I.


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And the idea that people out there actually reject the notion of evolution altogether just floors me. Let's take a most basic example-what the hell do people think caterpillars turning into butterflies or tadpoles turning into frogs is, if not a type of evolution?
That's metamorphosis, not evolution. It's a completely different mechanism
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As do I.


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Lewis really was a simpleton, the sun does not rise
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The more in-your-face example is, how do people think dogs got so wildly varied in size and appearance in less than 10,000 years. Sure, humans were directing that process. but still.

BUT STILL, GUYS.
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Come to that, how do people think humans got so varied in appearance, in not a lot longer.
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Also: corn (maize)
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:33 AM   #41
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The more in-your-face example is, how do people think dogs got so wildly varied in size and appearance in less than 10,000 years. Sure, humans were directing that process. but still.

BUT STILL, GUYS.
This isn't a good example either as there has been no change in the domestic dog genome.


But there's always the fossil record just sitting there for anyone to take a look at if they weren't so ignorant
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The more in-your-face example is, how do people think dogs got so wildly varied in size and appearance in less than 10,000 years. Sure, humans were directing that process. but still.

BUT STILL, GUYS.
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My reason for not believing in creationism: I'm supposed to believe that every single human being on earth is a descendent of two white people from the middle east/north Africa? And that god clicked his fingers a few times and up popped everything?
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My reason for not believing in intelligent design creationism: I like at least a shred of evidence. cdesign proponentsists (look it up) are weaselly little tricksters
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Lewis really was a simpleton, the sun does not rise
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