Bill Maher-Victim Of Religious Discrimination?

[Headache in a Suitcase]

thanks, i was worried.

tim tebow loves him some jesus. but HE doesn't wham it down my throat.

yes he does.

i work at a religious high school, surrounded by religious people, and i hear more jesus talk in a 5 minute press conference than tim tebow than i do on any given work day.


and how soon we all forget his anti-abortion super bowl commercial from 2010...

Super Bowl 2010 Commercial - Tim Tebow & Mom - YouTube


those are his beliefs and he's really, really proud of them (or really, really covering for something). and he wants everyone else to know how great jesus is. and that's fine. but let's not try to pretend like this is entirely the media's doing. they have fueled the fire, but they didn't start it.

 

[BEAL]

I guess it's just my nature to wonder if he's as squeaky clean as he projects to be. I really get a sense of Tiger Woods type manipulation of his image, where he's been programmed from a young age to be not only a great athlete, but a great christian icon as well.

Now media and churches can jump onto his bandwagon al they want, but he definitely gives them enough room to do so.

I just wonder if sometime in the future the perfection of Tebow the person has a "fire hydrant" moment, and unfortunately the fall for him will be even worse than Tiger. Tiger was a bit of a douche towards people as he wanted his private life kept there, and he never really opened up about faith or even family. But he was projected as a great guy and father.

If Timmy were to have a fall from grace I would not be happy for it at all. It's just something about having to project yourself as being the all around great guy, the all around nice guy, and the love for Jesus every moment of your life just strikes me as fake and covering for something.

Who knows but I think in the next year or so he will fall back to earth with his performance on the football field. And if he does improve, and turns into a good QB, more power to him.

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

I guess it's just my nature to wonder if he's as squeaky clean as he projects to be. I really get a sense of Tiger Woods type manipulation of his image, where he's been programmed from a young age to be not only a great athlete, but a great christian icon as well.

Now media and churches can jump onto his bandwagon al they want, but he definitely gives them enough room to do so.

I just wonder if sometime in the future the perfection of Tebow the person has a "fire hydrant" moment, and unfortunately the fall for him will be even worse than Tiger.

This.

I heard he also did something for "Focus On The Family", which makes me pretty uncomfortable on so many levels, 'cause that group is full of morons.

 

[Earnie Shavers]

For some strange reason God has only ever spoken to the most undeveloped, uneducated (generally illiterate) end of his creation, so sure, perhaps after a 2000 year absence, via a football player is a pretty good bet.

 

[financeguy]

and unfortunately the fall for him will be even worse than Tiger.

Not in terms of international reputation, as people outside of America have actually heard of Tiger Woods.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

I guess it's just my nature to wonder if he's as squeaky clean as he projects to be

Nobody is. I don't know how clean he has to be in order to be considered authentic or whatever the standard is. It depends upon who is judging him for that I suppose and what their individual standards and judgments are. Like I said before, he has really put himself out there and I'm sure there are many people digging for dirt about him. It will come out eventually if it's there. He's projecting an image but I don't think it's one of personal perfection. No true Christian would ever project that image. So as for perfection I think that's more of a projection from others. Whether his love for Jesus or his niceness is fake or real, well I would have to know him well personally in order to judge. He seems quite nice to me, but that's a very limited knowledge. Many people can seem nice when you don't really know them.

Yes I think that Focus On The Family ad was a mistake, to be affiliated with them.

 

[INDY500]

Couldn't we take any number and assign it a bible passage?

Yes and any quarterback, including Tim Tebow, would rather throw for 666 yards than 316.

I'm not a numerologist or one who see Jesus in the folds of a bean burrito but I very much believe, as any Christian must, that God often shows us miracles and signs.

The world and the ages are also filled with coincidences. Miracles... improbable coincidences... they make life more interesting don't you think?

OMG He had Luke 2:36 a few weeks back! What do you suppose that meant?

John 3:16 isn't a random Bible verse in Tebow's life. It's the one that brought him to national attention.

 

[INDY500]

For some strange reason God has only ever spoken to the most undeveloped, uneducated (generally illiterate) end of his creation, so sure, perhaps after a 2000 year absence, via a football player is a pretty good bet.

Anyone with even a passing knowledge of Western Civilization should be able to make a rather impressive list of colleges and universities founded or affiliated with Christian denominations.

Don't allow your hostility towards religion make you look ignorant.

 

[KhanadaRhodes]

wow, we're really comparing a guy throwing a touchdown to a miracle? really?



really?

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

Yep. The word "miracle" is one of those words that gets thrown around an awful lot for pretty much anything under the sun that's good.

I read an article about Tim in Time this evening at work. It said that when he put the John 3:16, I believe it was, scripture out there, it garned millions of Google searches as people hunted down what it was. That struck me really strange and says a lot about a nation that sees itself as mostly Christian.

 

[corianderstem]

Did all those clown-wig John 3:16 dudes from all those sporting events in the '80s see all the exposure Tebow gave their verse and weep with jealousy? Or weep with love, because hey, John 3:16?

 

[Jive Turkey]

 

[deep]

each prayer is equally valid

 

[Jive Turkey]

Anyone with even a passing knowledge of Western Civilization should be able to make a rather impressive list of colleges and universities founded or affiliated with Christian denominations.

Don't allow your hostility towards religion make you look ignorant.

You might be misinterpreting what Earnie was saying. I think he means literally spoken to (ie uneducated illiterates in antiquity)

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

He's getting even bigger numbers for the NFL. I heard today that Broncos/Steelers had more viewers then the Oscars last year, the American Idol finale, and the last Charlie Sheen episode of Two and a Half Men. I think the Pats Broncos game a few weeks ago was the highest rated game of the regular season. So Saturday should be huge. I assume he's drawing in casual fans or non fans, so of course the networks and the NFL love it.



Smart decision to decline, he really needs to stay away from politics

Sensing the excitement and loving his message, Tebow is also being courted by Republican presidential candidates. The quarterback recently told The Associated Press he's been asked by more than one of the contenders for his support. He wouldn't name names, but did say he'd declined the offer.

"I think you have to have so much trust in who you support, just from product endorsements to endorsing a candidate because if that person or company does something bad, it reflects on you," said Tebow, who's a pitchman for Nike, Jockey and FRS energy drink.

 

[Irvine511]

I'm not a numerologist or one who see Jesus in the folds of a bean burrito but I very much believe, as any Christian must, that God often shows us miracles and signs.

what if Teabow were praising Allah after every home run or 3-pointer or whatever it is that he does?

if he talked about Allah and Mohammad in his press conferences? if he wrote references to the Koran underneath his eyes?

would that be cool?

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

Bingo. That's the thing that always amuses me about this stuff. So long as it's your religion being promoted every which way, it's fine. Any other religion, though, not fine. Then it's being "pushy".

 

[Irvine511]

what if Teabow painted rainbow flags under his eyes?

 

[Jive Turkey]

after every home run or 3-pointer or whatever it is that he does?

Awwww

 

[Irvine511]

Awwww

i'm gay. i thought "Tim Teabow" was a sexual position.

 

[BEAL]

Of course Christians will say you're free to express your own religious beliefs, or even sexual orientation in public and you'll be treated the same.

Yet, either the other religions are preaching a more low key approach to their faith in America, or the fact is other religious people are afraid to come out and express their beliefs in the same way Tebow (and others) for fear of public backlash (specifically from the Right).

I believe it's the same as how many current pro athletes have come out and said they are gay? It's well known they exist, yet they don't want to come out due to fear, within their own organziation, community, and on a national stage. It's always after their career is over when they feel it's safe to express who they truly are.

So in summary, no way Tebow gets the following he has if he professed that "Allah willing" the Bronco's beat the Patriots this Saturday night.

 

[Jive Turkey]

i'm gay. i thought "Tim Teabow" was a sexual position.

Hahaha!

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

i'm gay. i thought "Tim Teabow" was a sexual position.

It might arguably be even MORE popular if it actually were that .

 

[Irvine511]

if i've ruined the words "Tim Teabow" for even just one person out there, then i have done my job.


(in reality, while i don't care about football, i obviously know what it is, how it's played, and that if i did care that i would be cheering for the Patriots this weekend out of geographic loyalty and not out of dislike for Mr. Teabow).

 

[Earnie Shavers]

i'm gay. i thought "Tim Teabow" was a sexual position.

Ah yes, who could forget that, the memorable final scene of the final instalment of the gay porn classic 'John' trilogy - John 3: 16".

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Yeah, that song really needed a remake. Now it will be stuck in my head just like My God Is An Awesome God. And I just finished Rob Lowe's book too. Full circle moment...

Tom Brady's got a big fire engine that's gonna put out Tim Tebow's fire Sat night. I hope. If he doesn't well damn Tim Tebow to hell for all eternity


'St. Elmo's Fire' singer reworks 1980's hit for Tim Tebow
Web Staff FOX31 Denver

January 11, 2012

DENVER -- What happens when you combine one of the most popular songs of the 1980’s and one of today’s most popular athletes? A runaway Internet hit.

British rocker John Parr has re-recorded his 1985 #1 song “St. Elmo's Fire (Man in Motion),” with lyrics inspired by Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.

“Tim Tebow’s Fire” had more than 230,000 hits on YouTube Wednesday evening, just 48 hours after it was first posted on the FOX31 Denver YouTube Channel and Facebook page.

“I can see a new horizon, Underneath the blazin' sky,” Parr sings in the sweeping chorus. “I'll be where the eagle's flyin' higher and higher.”

“Gonna be a man in motion, All I needs my Broncos team. Take me where my future's lyin'
Tim Tebows Fire.”

Parr explained his decision to essentially parody his own song.

“I was inspired by Tim Tebow so I wanted to modify the lyrics...in his honor of the way that he lives his life as being a great example,” Parr told FOX31 Denver on Monday.

“St. Elmo’s Fire (Man in Motion),” which Parr wrote and recorded for the Brat Pack-era movie of the same title, reached #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States in September 1985 and received a Grammy nomination.

Parr originally performed 'Tim Tebow's Fire' live on ESPN in October 2011 and later released a full studio version. He also recently recorded a new song titled 'Just a Man’ - a completely original song about Tebow, although Parr never directly mentions him by name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gAIQWzW1MIc

 

[corianderstem]

'St. Elmo's Fire' singer reworks 1980's hit for Tim Tebow

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

 

[INDY500]

what if Teabow were praising Allah after every home run or 3-pointer or whatever it is that he does?

if he talked about Allah and Mohammad in his press conferences? if he wrote references to the Koran underneath his eyes?

You mean like Muhammad Ali used to give praise to Allah after each of his fights? And he was only named Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Decade. And aren't American athletes who legally change their name to a Muslim name literally putting their faith on the back of their jersey?

would that be cool?

Cooler than a Christian athlete putting John 3:16 under his eyes in any Islamic republic I should think.

But yes, as a fan in the stadium, I would certainly get a little nervous if late in the game I knew a Muslim quarterback was in the huddle calling for the next play to be "a bomb." (pause....) And we'd probably have to stop calling that a "hail Mary" pass wouldn't we?

 

[Jive Turkey]

But yes, as a fan in the stadium, I would certainly get a little nervous if late in the game I knew a Muslim quarterback was in the huddle calling for the next play to be "a bomb." (pause....) And we'd probably have to stop calling that a "hail Mary" pass wouldn't we?

Ba Dum

(You don't deserve the cymbal for that one)