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Old 09-06-2008, 01:21 AM   #46
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That Bill Ayers relationship bothers me a lot more than even the Jeremiah Wright relationship.

i find the party affiliation of Mr. Palin with the Alaskan Independence Party much more suspect.
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"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,"
we've heard concerns in here voiced that Mr. Obama surrounds himself with "radicals" and "extremists."

what was said by these individuals is every bit the equal of any of Mr. Wright's sermons.

but, hey, it was said by white people.

where, oh where, are the Wright outragists?
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Old 09-06-2008, 03:49 AM   #47
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there is obviously a lot of racism in America

that is the only reason this contest is even close

Obama legitimately should be up by about 10 points
but too many people just can't get past his race
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:05 AM   #48
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So, it was recorded this afternoon in PA where Obama was campaigning, and will be aired in staggered segments, mostly M/T/W next week, but I gather FOX aired a short 'teaser' segment from it tonight. So much for ruthless, scheming Obama cackling evilly as he attempts to steal McCain's thunder with an extended live rebuttal post-convention.

So McCain's speech got more viewers Obama's speech and depending what time zone one was in
Obama on O'Reilly may have pulled a few from McCain.

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Barack Obama gives O'Reilly a ratings bump
'O'Reilly Factor' sees second-highest numbers ever

By Paul J. Gough

Sept 5, 2008, 06:46 PM ET

NEW YORK -- Bill O'Reilly's interview with Sen. Barack Obama on Thursday brought "The O'Reilly Factor" the second-highest ratings in its history.

"The O'Reilly Factor" averaged 6.6 million viewers Thursday night, Nielsen Media Research said Friday. It was surpassed in the ratings only by the March 19, 2003, "O'Reilly Factor" that led into President Bush's nationally televised speech about the beginning of the Iraq War.

After months of avoiding Fox News Channel, Obama entered the "no-spin zone" Thursday afternoon, doing a sitdown with O'Reilly during a campaign stop in York, Pa. It coincided with the last night of the Republican National Convention.
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there is obviously a lot of racism in America

that is the only reason this contest is even close

Obama legitimately should be up by about 10 points
but too many people just can't get past his race
Yes. There is really no way around stating this, unfortunately.
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but, hey, it was said by white people.

Excuse me?

I couldn't care less what color Jeremiah Wright is, and you thinking that race has anything to do with the man's stupidity and ignorance proves your own. Wright said offensive things about white people, which do anything BUT help the race relations in this country which you complain about so often. He said offensive and completely bogus crap about the United States. If I see anything equally damaging said by the AIP, it should be condemned as well, though Mr. Palin isn't running for President, or even Vice-President, and didn't belong to that group for 20 years, and didn't call it's leader his "uncle" and "mentor", and didn't denounce and leave the group only when he got caught...
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I always found it strange that a lot of the same people who are outraged about Wright also happen to believe that Obama is a Muslim. I've wondered how they reconcile the two.

(I'm not referring to anyone here)
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Oh goodie! I was wondering when we'd get into fear based ads as arguments in FYM. Way to go, u2jt!
So it OK for someone seeking our countries highest office to associate with domestic terrorists? A person who bombed our US Capitol, had no remorse in doing so and wishes that had done more?

Diemen, I actually feel sorry for you. I really do. I dont agree with most of your opinions but at least you try to support them with some sort of facts. It is sad that you are so blinded by either hate of the conservative belief system of the right or your faith in a person like Obama had so clouded your judgement that you can actually try to justify a relationship like this by passing it off as nothing more than, "fear based ad's."

That facts are out there about what this guys did. It is one thing if it was some bad decisions he made in his youth. Let say like, doing coke. I know some on the right even want to hammer away stuff like that on Berry. Its not fair and not relevant. With Ayres, he is not sorry about it! He wishes they had done more. So he is saying that he wishes that they would have KILLED MORE AMERICANS to get their point across!!! And you can justify that??? HOW! HOW!!

Barry may find a way to justify that relationship...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

but I see it, at a minimum, as a lack of good judgment. A quality I find very important in my President. When matched up with his relationship with Rev. Wright and, even more recently, his unwillingness to admit that he was wrong about the troop serge, I see a man with very poor judgment who is unwilling to admit when he's clearly wrong. I believe this is what he and his ilk's complaint is against GW Bush. An unwillingness to admit when you are wrong.

Yeah Right Berry...Change you can believe in.
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i find the party affiliation of Mr. Palin with the Alaskan Independence Party much more suspect.

It should not for 2 very simple reasons.

1. She was not part of the AIP. All if it was proven to be untrue. Just feeble attempts by the sad liberal bloggers on KoS and the like to try to discredit Sarah Palin because they are afraid of her positive impact o the McCain ticket


2. What Ayres did to our country, his lack of remorse, and wishing that they would have done more is all FACT.


So what concerns you more? Liberal lies about a candidate they fear is pulling the election out of their hands or a candidates relationship with a terrorist who has killed Americans and wishes they had done MORE!
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Excuse me?

I couldn't care less what color Jeremiah Wright is, and you thinking that race has anything to do with the man's stupidity and ignorance proves your own. Wright said offensive things about white people, which do anything BUT help the race relations in this country which you complain about so often. He said offensive and completely bogus crap about the United States. If I see anything equally damaging said by the AIP, it should be condemned as well, though Mr. Palin isn't running for President, or even Vice-President, and didn't belong to that group for 20 years, and didn't call it's leader his "uncle" and "mentor", and didn't denounce and leave the group only when he got caught...


Ms. Palin addressed this group. Mr. Palin was a member.

i'm not disagreeing with your assessment of Mr. Wright -- i think it's just way too simplistic -- but i see no difference whatsoever in the incendiary remarks made by Mr. Wright on a few occasions versus the entire platform of Mr. Palin's pre-2000 political party.
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So it OK for someone seeking our countries highest office to associate with domestic terrorists? A person who bombed our US Capitol, had no remorse in doing so and wishes that had done more?

the were both members of a board of an anti-poverty program.

that's it. Obama was 6 or 7 years old when The Weathermen were out and about.

what you're bringing up is absolutely bogus.

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Diemen, I actually feel sorry for you. I really do. I dont agree with most of your opinions but at least you try to support them with some sort of facts. It is sad that you are so blinded by either hate of the conservative belief system of the right or your faith in a person like Obama had so clouded your judgement that you can actually try to justify a relationship like this by passing it off as nothing more than, "fear based ad's."

if ever there were a case of the pot calling the kettle black, this is it.
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It should not for 2 very simple reasons.

1. She was not part of the AIP. All if it was proven to be untrue. Just feeble attempts by the sad liberal bloggers on KoS and the like to try to discredit Sarah Palin because they are afraid of her positive impact o the McCain ticket


2. What Ayres did to our country, his lack of remorse, and wishing that they would have done more is all FACT.


So what concerns you more? Liberal lies about a candidate they fear is pulling the election out of their hands or a candidates relationship with a terrorist who has killed Americans and wishes they had done MORE!


wow, you're like a parody of a conservative poster.
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So McCain's speech got more viewers Obama's speech and depending what time zone one was in
Obama on O'Reilly may have pulled a few from McCain.
wouldn't fox's coverage of the live nomination speech preempt the o'reilly factor in markets where there might have been an overlap?
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the were both members of a board of an anti-poverty program.

that's it. Obama was 6 or 7 years old when The Weathermen were out and about.

what you're bringing up is absolutely bogus.
you're ignoring the $$$ factors. all 200 of them.
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wouldn't fox's coverage of the live nomination speech preempt the o'reilly factor in markets where there might have been an overlap?
good question


this should be able to be determined
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