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Old 09-04-2008, 07:49 AM   #16
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Obama knows what he's getting into, and I don't think he has any illusions about the fact that FOX News, in general, would love to catch him off guard or trap him into some manufactured controversy.

I guess we'll see how he does when the time comes.
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Old 09-05-2008, 12:45 AM   #17
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So, it was recorded this afternoon in PA where Obama was campaigning, and will be aired in staggered segments, mostly M/T/W next week, but I gather FOX aired a short 'teaser' segment from it tonight. So much for ruthless, scheming Obama cackling evilly as he attempts to steal McCain's thunder with an extended live rebuttal post-convention.
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Obama Meets O'Reilly: No One Dies!

by James Poniewozik
TIME, Sep. 4


Barack Obama sat down to an interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly on Fox tonight and — shockingly — it looked like a TV interview. Though he was speaking with Democrats' most-reviled host on their most-disparaged network, no one Photoshopped his head on Osama bin Laden's body or produced Jeremiah Wright from behind a secret panel.

Instead — in the first of four segments designed to milk the interview — Obama had a combative but respectful back-and-forth with O'Reilly, tonight on the subject of national security. O'Reilly asked first if Obama believed we are in a "war on terror," a kind of semantic loyalty oath to see if he would hedge on the term. "Absolutely," he said.

O'Reilly led him through questions on Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq, occasionally bickering with Obama ("You're not going to send ground troops [into Pakistan], and you know it!") or making a pronouncement without asking a question. Obama pressed his case that the war in Iraq had misdirected America's resources, saying that the surge had worked "beyond our wildest dreams" but placing that in the context of the cost of the preceding five years of the war and reminding O'Reilly that the Iraqis have not yet stepped up to self-governance. (And, in what was probably an intentional dig at McCain, making the point that he knew the distinction between Sunni and Shi'a.)

Obama's visit came in a campaign notable for candidates avoiding various media. Most Democratic candidates, including Obama, largely shunned Fox during the primaries. (Obama has gone on Fox News Sunday.) John McCain canceled on Larry King earlier this week to punish CNN for Campbell Brown's having dared to ask a McCain aide too many follow-up question about Sarah Palin's foreign-policy credentials. And Palin, thus far, has been avoiding all national media interviews, save one with People magazine.

Michael Wolff reports in the current Vanity Fair that Obama's rapprochement with Fox happened after an air-clearing meeting with Rupert Murdoch and Fox News chief Roger Ailes. And it's about time. For God's sake, if you think it's in America's interest to speak to international adversaries, you ought to be able to sit down with a guy whose TV show you don't like.

The Democratic argument against "legitimizing" Fox News by appearing was as ridiculous as McCain's snub of softballer King and Palin's residency in the Candidate Protection Program — and politically counterproductive to boot. Is Fox Karl Rove's new home? Fine. Did it flog the Wright story, call Michelle "baby mama" and question the "terrorist fist bump"? Sure. Did O'Reilly get in a scuffle with an Obama staffer on a New Hampshire rope line? Hey, who hasn't? The fact remains that — according to Pew Research — over half of Fox News' audience are Democrats or Independents. Their votes are legitimate, whether Fox News is or not.

And to continue to freeze out Fox would go against one of Obama's most consistent messages: that people are sick of red-vs.-blue America divisions, and that we should be able to talk with people who disagree with us. In that sense, Obama made his strongest argument simply by showing up.

O'Reilly at least gave Obama props for that. In typical O'Reillian fashion, the host had two analysts on immediately after the segment essentially to assess how well he had interviewed Obama (verdict: great!), and O'Reilly praised him for coming on the show. "He's a tough guy, Obama... I looked at him eye to eye — he's not a wimpy guy."

Obama, after all, had stared down Papa Bear. And in the No-Spin Zone, that's the greatest leadership credential of all.
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:28 AM   #18
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well the first segment had sen o sqirming, he looked very nervous.

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Well he finally admitted the the troop surge, that he was against, is working very well. Somehow he is still not willing to admit that he was wrong.

Isn't that one of the left big criticism of the Bush administration...an unwillingness to admit when they are wrong? Yeah Obama, Change you can count on! Whatever! Do as I say and not as I do.
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Old 09-05-2008, 12:59 PM   #20
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Thank goodness for Fox News giving adequate voice to both sides of the issues. The interview is terrific.

Fox News saves a little bit of credibility for a media juggernaut that is otherwise drowning in the muck of bitter, radical liberalism.
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:07 PM   #21
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Thank goodness for Fox News giving adequate voice to both sides of the issues. The interview is terrific.

Fox News saves a little bit of credibility for a media juggernaut that is otherwise drowning in the muck of bitter, radical liberalism.

Did I just read someone put Fox News and the word 'credibility' in the same post?
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Did I just read someone put Fox News and the word 'credibility' in the same post?
Did you watch the segment with Obama last night ?

Did you watch his segments with Hillary ?
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i give bill-o credit when it's due. i've seen him on cspan, speaking on panels, conducting himself the way any sane person would (not that i agreed with him). i haven't seen the obama interview and don't plan on catching any of it.

but,

what constitutes "radical" these days?
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Did you watch the segment with Obama last night ?

Did you watch his segments with Hillary ?
Yes and no... What does that have to do with my post?
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i didn't see it. how did Obama do? preferrably, if a non-Republican could answer my question...

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Yes and no... What does that have to do with my post?
My opinion of O'Rielly changed a bit after watching the Hillary interviews.

He was more credible than I imagined.

and if you watched, as I did, you may refine your opinion.
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My opinion of O'Rielly changed a bit after watching the Hillary interviews.

He was more credible than I imagined.

and if you watched, as I did, you may refine your opinion.
Well, I've stated before I do think Bill has refined himself quite a bit recently, especially with "bigger" names, but he still reverts to his old self now and again...

But Fox News as a whole still has some big credibility issues...
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Well, I've stated before I do think Bill has refined himself quite a bit recently, especially with "bigger" names, but he still reverts to his old self now and again...

But Fox News as a whole still has some big credibility issues...

ironically

keith olbermann is probably most responsible for the change

and now keith is being seen as the caricature


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ironically

keith olbermann is probably most responsible for the change

and now keith is being seen as the caricature
Ironically I almost put that in my post...

I think you're right in the sense that Keith probably made Bill look in the mirror, now someone needs to make Keith look in the mirror.
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:30 PM   #30
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I don't understand the backlash to Olbermann in here recently.

What's changed so much about him?
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