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Old 08-01-2009, 07:23 PM   #76
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My mom knows better than to bug me about when I'm going to get married and give her grandbabies. She knows she might not be getting any from me.
i'm going to tell my mum that any time she asks/pesters/comments/jokes i'm going to push it back a month from whenever (a long long long way away please thank you god) we're ready just to annoy her.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:10 PM   #77
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In all seriousness, I will never understand the obsession in recent years with writing articles/blogging/debating etc. people's reproductive choices. If people want to have a child(ren) and they have the financial, physical, emotional, and mental stability and desire to do so, they should. If they choose not to have a child(ren) for any reason, that's their business as well. It should be a non-issue.
Nice and clean and clinical, isn't it?
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:13 PM   #78
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It's really a non-issue with my circle of family and friends. It's not brought up, and really never has been except for an initial question when first meeting. "Do you have any kids?" "No." Moving on...
It really should be a non-issue at that point, but I have a friend who's been berated, even by perfect strangers, for answering "no" to this question. She's married, in her late thirties, and does not want children, nor has she ever wanted them. I don't get how or why people can get so up in arms over it.

Even more astounding to me is that she's had doctors try to talk her out of undergoing sterilization. She's been told that it's not a good idea, because she may change her mind. She even had one male doctor tell her that it was her "obligation as a woman" to bear children. I was shocked, to say the least, that that mindset exists in the 21st century.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:16 PM   #79
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She even had one male doctor tell her that it was her "obligation as a woman" to bear children. I was shocked, to say the least, that that mindset exists in the 21st century.
When will we women just learn that it's our sole responsibility to be a vessel for children? We serve no other purpose! We are nothing but our uteruses (uteri?)!

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Old 08-01-2009, 08:17 PM   #80
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Obviously, it is not the sole purpose of women to procreate - for example, there are activities such as cleaning, cooking, and so on and so forth (joke!) - but many people like to have kids, and shouldn't be judged for instincts that are fairly normal.
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When will we women just learn that it's our sole responsibility to be a vessel for children? We serve no other purpose! We are nothing but our uteruses (uteri?)!

Vomit.
I've done many things in my life, but I will not be a whole woman until I have utilized my uterus, I guess.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:22 PM   #82
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but many people like to have kids, and shouldn't be judged for instincts that are fairly normal.
Certainly. No one should be judged on either side. I think people who give a great deal of thought to whatever choice they make are the least selfish of all.
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Only here is annrkeyintheusa given a hard time for saying stuff that is perfectly normal.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:25 PM   #84
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what i think is best is to have kids, and then spend their lives first resenting them, because pregnancy forced you to put your dreams and ambitions on hold, and then you should take your dreams and foist them on your child and then berate them whenever they fail to live up to said shattered dreams in order to instill a perpetual feeling of worthlessness and inadequacy no matter what they might happen to achieve.

that's what's kept the middle class striving for years!
I have reservations about gays adopting kids - for example, the kids could be subjected to bullying - but it's abundantly clear to me that the average middle class gay couple make much better parents than the average heterosexual underclass/welfare couple.
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Only here is annrkeyintheusa given a hard time for saying stuff that is perfectly normal.
I don't know that calling people without kids hateful and accusing them of wanting all their time and money to themselves is normal stuff.

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I have reservations about gays adopting kids - for example, the kids could be subjected to bullying - but it's abundantly clear to me that the average middle class gay couple make much better parents than the average heterosexual underclass/welfare couple.
Children are bullied for having interracial parents, poor parents, rich parents, physically disabled parents, etc. Children are bullied for wearing glasses. Children can be cruel.
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It really should be a non-issue at that point, but I have a friend who's been berated, even by perfect strangers, for answering "no" to this question.
Why the fuck are complete strangers even asking her a question like that?
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If they ask why she doesn't want children, she should tell them, quite calmly, that she doesn't want them to turn out to be complete assholes like them.

Or, if she doesn't want to sink to their rude level, a perfectly cast withering glare before turning away would suffice.
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Why the fuck are complete strangers even asking her a question like that?
I'm assuming these were at parties, gatherings, etc. Beats me.

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If they ask why she doesn't want children, she should tell them, quite calmly, that she doesn't want them to turn out to be complete assholes like them.

Or, if she doesn't want to sink to their rude level, a perfectly cast withering glare before turning away would suffice.
I'll tell her that.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:41 PM   #89
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Why the fuck are complete strangers even asking her a question like that?
Curiosity?
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:51 PM   #90
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Only here is annrkeyintheusa given a hard time for saying stuff that is perfectly normal.
No. She wasn't given a hard time for saying things that are perfectly normal, she was rebuffed when she attacked those who don't want children as being selfish assholes while claiming great virtue for her views.
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