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Old 08-06-2013, 02:41 AM   #31
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I saw Charlie Pickering unhinged last night. Unsurprisingly he said political discourse in Aus is "fucked", and he and Waleed Aly actually figured that it would be cheaper to hire cruise ships, boat in refugees in luxury than the current solution, and they'd still have money leftover to hire the Stones to perform on the way.

He also hates a lot of the stories he has to throw to on The Project, as well as Hughesy's shit jokes.
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I'm honestly so depressed about this election already that I'm trying not to care much, lest I become even more depressed.
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I'm honestly so depressed about this election already that I'm trying not to care much, lest I become even more depressed.
That was me last fall here in the US

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Not sure why one beer is such a big deal.

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The Tele's going to keep making absurd front pages because they know it keeps people talking. Why can't all Australia agree to treat the Tele like we would treat a common playground bully, i.e. ignore it and let it wither?

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I keep on reading the title as 'Australian fedora election' and I don't know if it makes me happy or angry.
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The problem isn't so much partisanship, as partisanship that dare not speak its name.

Whither public broadcasters in such a world, I'm not sure. And that worries me. There should be something like an ABC. It just should be better than it is.
Good point about public broadcasting. It's a dilemma to which I don't have a solution either. The ABC and SBS are incredibly valuable to Austraia and could be even more so. But do you keep peddling some myth of press neutrality that they're meant to follow, or what? You can't say no politics, because that would eliminate not just most news but also most entertainment. This country would have almost no televised political satire if it weren't for the ABC.

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You know what really pisses me off about the beige drivel we are fed during election campaigns in recent years is that: politics really does matter. It matters like hell. You wouldn't know it from the 'go back to sleep, Austraya' crap the candidates parrot. I feel like a pillow is being gently smoothed over my face sometimes. You end up with the situation of a somewhat decent government that couldn't sell crack to an addict. Rudd is a little above average in this regard, but he's no Hawke, no Keating. Fortunately for him, Abbott is, to put it mildly, no Fraser or Howard.

At least in the pre-television era, the era of townhall meetings and speeches from the back of trucks, it was harder to get away with such disconnect, such pretense that a few thousand swinging voters are the nation.
I would love a return to the era when politicians really had to be fucking great public speakers - people of eloquence and charisma, capable of holding an audience in the palm of their hand and without the aid of microphones or other amplification. The worst part is that I don't see younger politicians coming through with the charisma of a Hawke. Who are the great rising stars? They are lacking.
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My mate from high school days Francis ran for the seat of Flinders in 2010, lost by about 20,000 votes. He was on Shitsville on ABC 2. He's a good public speaker.

Abbott is not, and his uhs and ers make it so obvious he's thinking extremely carefully about everything he says.
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"I don't oppose Islam as a country, umm, but I do feel that their laws should not be welcome here in Australia."

Well, if anyone was worried about One Nation, they shouldn't be after watching this.

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Well that was a damn good laugh!
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Partly it's the advisors these people have. The young advisors who populate modern political offices (who often go on - hello Tony, btw - to become the politicians themselves) are sometimes satirised as having watched too much of The West Wing... I only wish they took account of the good bits.

As for Deputy Prime Minister Albo having a beer with Craig Thompson, everyone knows that Craig Thompson is guilty of 3591 credit card fraud charges, and was in on the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal, and also kicked a dog. I mean, the grainy photos show that it's dodgy as heck! Right?
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Peter Beattie making a comeback!

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However poorly or well they hold on this time, it's interesting to consider that the leader of the Greens at the federal level has a public profile considerably higher than does the leader of the National Party.

Does anyone on this thread actually know who the leader of the National Party is? Hint: it's Warren Truss. The days of Black Jack McEwan are a distant memory.
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Right on the top left hand corner, to nobody's surprise.
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The only Nationals member I know is Barnaby Joyce, who always adds some welcome levity to Q&A.

I also like Bob Katter for similar reasons.
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This one's been doing the rounds today

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