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Old 02-06-2010, 01:18 PM   #76
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The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.

Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they display knowledge.

There is no speech or language
where their voice is not heard.

~Psalm 19
And BFD IronHorse how relevant is a God who can create but does nothing when mankind could use some of His All Powerfulness

The Free Will EXCUSE holds no water b/c you do not take into account the Free Will of the victim ie; it is my Free Will to live while it is the Free Will of a murderer to kill me ........
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Again, all of those can be sourced to people using them as negative reinforcement for the masses when the whole loving God angle wore itself out.

What can oppose God's will? Nothing. Thus, Satan cannot exist.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:15 PM   #78
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I never claimed the snake was talking, I said it was satan using the snake much like a ventriliquist, and tricked her. you have to understand that Eve was the newest creation and she might not have come across a snake before, so she might not have found it as odd that it could speak.. thats why he approached her first and not Adam
Yes. Satan possessed the snake to tempt Eve and see if she would really obey the commandments God gave her. She ate of the tree and sinned and ever since it's screwed us up.
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I like snakes. And I like apples.
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Yes. Satan possessed the snake to tempt Eve and see if she would really obey the commandments God gave her. She ate of the tree and sinned and ever since it's screwed us up.

What is your choice now?
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Free inquiry and openness to new ideas; for instance not blaming women for all the woes of the world and treating sex as sinful.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:56 PM   #83
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:25 AM   #84
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So a talking snake eats some bad produce and we're all fucked ???

Absolutely ridiculous.
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No, a talking snake (or the devil speaking to Eve through the snake) tricked Eve into eating the apple (or getting Adam to eat the apple), and our civilization has gone down hill ever since.

fucking women!
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Even in biblical times, it had to be the women. Men were the innocent bystander.

And I'm supposed to believe it actually happened because some dude wrote it down on paper.
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Even in biblical times, it had to be the women. Men were the innocent bystander.

And I'm supposed to believe it actually happened because some dude wrote it down on paper.
Did someone actually write it down at the time or thousands of years after it was supposed to have happened ? And who actually saw it ?

If that shit went on today nobody would buy unless it was on youtube and even then about 80% would cry "photoshopped !!"
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I'm curious as to who was there when "Satan" was "testing" Jesus. Who saw this happen, exactly?
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What? You wouldn't take the man Jesus for his word? What baffles my mind is that you bring up a point like the above, and we'll be told "That's just a fable, a story, don't take it literally"....but then who chooses what stories in the bible to be real and not? Are there footnotes?
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Jesus walked on water, and did many other niffy tricks.

For those reasons you should whorship him.


without the David Blaine / Criss Angel stuff he would have just been an ok guy with some nice things to say
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