Ashley, you have ruined my life !

[deep]

Hacker's Ashley Madison data dump spreads havoc | Reuters

"Life is short. Have an affair"


I'm not a big fan of hackers,

but I am finding it hard to find any real victims here

 

[bono_212]

Sorry.

 

[deep]

not you

you are a net "plus"

 

[Irvine511]

Raise your hand if you are surprised that Josh Duggar had an account.

Didn't think so.

 

[Hewson]

Remember when Peanuts TV specials were sponsored by Ashley Madison?

Spoiler

Ashley, Dolly, whatever.

 

[cobl04]

I'm quite uncomfortable with all these details being released. Moral crusaders really getting on their high horse. You don't know what's going on in people's lives. A couple of radio hosts here this morning told a woman live on air her husband was on the site. Despicable.

Also, can you really get shitty at the founders of the site when they're just creating something that there's obviously a massive market for?

 

[BVS]

I'm quite uncomfortable with all these details being released. Moral crusaders really getting on their high horse. You don't know what's going on in people's lives. A couple of radio hosts here this morning told a woman live on air her husband was on the site. Despicable.

Also, can you really get shitty at the founders of the site when they're just creating something that there's obviously a massive market for?

Is it any different than other hackers who release information?


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

 

[bono_212]

Guys, I seriously can't handle this thread title .


But seriously, in general, these types of hackers do sicken me. Almost as much as this Ashley Madison site kinda sickens me.

 

[monkeyskin]

I'm quite uncomfortable with all these details being released. Moral crusaders really getting on their high horse. You don't know what's going on in people's lives. A couple of radio hosts here this morning told a woman live on air her husband was on the site. Despicable.

Also, can you really get shitty at the founders of the site when they're just creating something that there's obviously a massive market for?

Didn't that lady call up specifically asking the DJs to check if her husband was registered? If you don't want to find out that way, don't ask to find out that way.

Cheaters don't have a right to conduct their affairs privately, this is just a resource for anyone to check if their specific spouse is a dirtbag. The method used is certainly morally dubious but I'd say it's on par with stealing from thieves.

I do hope that the credit card information leaked doesn't enable fraud however. That would be unjustifiable.

 

[Kieran McConville]

Of course it will enable fraud. If it's leaked, that's that.

 

[monkeyskin]

I'm a n00b on credit card fraud. Do you need the type of card, CVC, expiration date as well as the front number and name for fraud? No idea if all that is in this zip file. It hasn't been mentioned in any of the articles is read so wasn't sure if it was a further issue to this situation.

 

[Axver]

Guys, I seriously can't handle this thread title .

It's absolutely cracking me up. You've ruined all of Interference's lives, Ashley.

Raise your hand if you are surprised that Josh Duggar had an account.

Didn't think so.

Hahahaha that was such a shock.

Cheaters don't have a right to conduct their affairs privately, this is just a resource for anyone to check if their specific spouse is a dirtbag. The method used is certainly morally dubious but I'd say it's on par with stealing from thieves.

I do hope that the credit card information leaked doesn't enable fraud however. That would be unjustifiable.

Yeah I think I concur with this. As much as there are ethical problems with dumping hacked data - especially if, for some reason, people who legitimately never used the site become implicated* - I cannot bring myself to have sympathy for cheaters. That's the sort of behaviour that does deserve to be exposed and called out. I don't care what's "going on in their lives" or whatever; cheating is not acceptable, full stop. The other thing this proves is the adage that if you don't want people to know something, don't post it on the Internet (no matter how private the website may claim to be). I am amused that evidently their paid total-delete feature did not in fact totally delete everything.

*I don't know how that would actually happen, but you know that within millions of names there are probably going to be a few incorrectly implicated for one weird reason or another. Maybe through stolen card info being used, impersonation, or whatever.

 

[deep]

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[cobl04]

Didn't that lady call up specifically asking the DJs to check if her husband was registered? If you don't want to find out that way, don't ask to find out that way.

Cheaters don't have a right to conduct their affairs privately, this is just a resource for anyone to check if their specific spouse is a dirtbag. The method used is certainly morally dubious but I'd say it's on par with stealing from thieves.

I do hope that the credit card information leaked doesn't enable fraud however. That would be unjustifiable.

I'm not sure, maybe that was the case. I didn't hear it. Fitzy & Wippa?

Yeah I think I concur with this. As much as there are ethical problems with dumping hacked data - especially if, for some reason, people who legitimately never used the site become implicated* - I cannot bring myself to have sympathy for cheaters. That's the sort of behaviour that does deserve to be exposed and called out. I don't care what's "going on in their lives" or whatever; cheating is not acceptable, full stop. The other thing this proves is the adage that if you don't want people to know something, don't post it on the Internet (no matter how private the website may claim to be). I am amused that evidently their paid total-delete feature did not in fact totally delete everything.

*I don't know how that would actually happen, but you know that within millions of names there are probably going to be a few incorrectly implicated for one weird reason or another. Maybe through stolen card info being used, impersonation, or whatever.

I think it's all quite troublesome. Cheating is bad, sure. But I don't think it's as black-and-white as "not acceptable, full stop". What if a woman is seeking refuge from an abusive relationship? What about this?

Also, I don't like the "don't want it out there, don't post it" argument either. A cop-out. Reminds me of the icloud leak. Thousands of women all of a sudden had private naked pics they'd sent to lovers or whatever out there for everyone to see. To simply say "don't post it" is akin to victim-blaming imo.

 

[bono_212]

In a sense, I agree, but really, I think the "Don't Post It" adage is pretty sage advice, in general. Should I not have to worry about other people being stupid? Absolutely, BUT, the fact is, these leaks keep happening, so...nope not taking any >_> pictures with my cell phone.

 

[cobl04]

Oh yeah it is good advice. Being mindful of that stuff is a very, very good idea. Just saying that it's kind of a shit thing to say "well if you didn't want to be humiliated around the entire world you should have thrown your smart phone in the ocean and got a brick".

 

[bono_212]

Yeah, I understand what you mean, and I totally agree, from the blame side of it.

 

[PhilsFan]

My problem with anyone cheering on these hackers because they don't like Ashley Madison is that you're basically saying to the hackers, "As long as you pick the right targets, we're cool with it." And white boys who are good at the Internet is about the worst demographic as far as judgment on social justice issues is concerned.

 

[cobl04]

 

[Galeongirl]

Sorry.

Oh dear...

It's absolutely cracking me up. You've ruined all of Interference's lives, Ashley.



Hahahaha that was such a shock.



Yeah I think I concur with this. As much as there are ethical problems with dumping hacked data - especially if, for some reason, people who legitimately never used the site become implicated* - I cannot bring myself to have sympathy for cheaters. That's the sort of behaviour that does deserve to be exposed and called out. I don't care what's "going on in their lives" or whatever; cheating is not acceptable, full stop. The other thing this proves is the adage that if you don't want people to know something, don't post it on the Internet (no matter how private the website may claim to be). I am amused that evidently their paid total-delete feature did not in fact totally delete everything.

*I don't know how that would actually happen, but you know that within millions of names there are probably going to be a few incorrectly implicated for one weird reason or another. Maybe through stolen card info being used, impersonation, or whatever.

Agreed. There's a difference between hacking for ethical reasons and hacking to destroy stuff or steal people's identities and such. Cheating isn't acceptable. Sure people should mind their own business, and it's none of my business if people I don't know cheat... but it is their spouse's business, and her not knowing about it is rather nasty.

Why is it so bad that the woman who called the radio station found out this way? Isn't it better to find out, albeit in a shitty way, than to never know you're being cheated upon? I'm sorry, but if my partner cheated on me, I'd want to know. Because for one partner to cheat on the other, something is obviously wrong in the relationship.. Cheating is the lowest escape, talk to your partner for feck's sake if something isn't right. I know, easy talking, but that's as simple as I can make it. Nothing justifies cheating, and if a bunch of white kids want to expose this, that's fine by me.. releasing credit card information? Not so fine.

 

[Irvine511]

i can disagree with hacking into a website while also feeling happy about exposing politically connected and influential hypocritical assholes who try and hurt people on the basis of a their particular and highly exclusive vision of human sexuality and family.

 

[anitram]

Yes, seemingly the oldest Duggar (who was already exposed for having molested 5 of his sisters) had multiple accounts on AM - and a wife and four kids. All while he worked at FRC in Washington concentrating on taking away the reproductive rights of women and the freedom to marry from gays and lesbians. Nice.

 

[PhilsFan]

And then next time Anonymous (or whoever), fresh off a victory in which they were not criticized because people were happy about Duggar getting exposed, decides that feminists are a good target and equally as bad as people signed up for Ashley Madison and we get another GamerGate situation.

No amount of hate for the likes of Duggar can make me feel good about this without feeling like I'm enabling.

 

[deep]

in seems in many of these situations people tend to choose the side in which they are more likely to find themselves in



are you someone that might use this site and be exposed,
or are you someone that could have a partner that might be tempted to use a site like this if it truely was safe with no danger of being discovered?

 

[BoMac]

Uh-huh. Sure.

Statement from Josh Duggar:

I have been the biggest hypocrite ever. While espousing faith and family values, I have secretly over the last several years been viewing pornography on the internet and this became a secret addiction and I became unfaithful to my wife.

I am so ashamed of the double life that I have been living and am grieved for the hurt, pain and disgrace my sin has caused my wife and family, and most of all Jesus and all those who profess faith in Him.

I brought hurt and a reproach to my family, close friends and the fans of our show with my actions that happened when I was 14-15 years old, and now I have re-broken their trust.

The last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, I was hiding my own personal failings.

As I am learning the hard way, we have the freedom to choose to our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. I deeply regret all hurt I have caused so many by being such a bad example.

I humbly ask for your forgiveness. Please pray for my precious wife Anna and our family during this time.

Josh Duggar

 

[Hewson]

Uh-huh. Sure.

What a sanctimonious sack of monkey shit.

Only thing he regrets is that he got caught.

 

[deep]

100 per cent true

if this hack had not happened would he be doing anything any differently now?
and if this hack was released 6 months ago, he would have released the statement then.


but, if you are a religious person, and you confess and repent, your sins are washed away and you are clean again

 

[deep]

ok, I reread his statement, he had a porn addiction

addiction = disease

a sick person is not responsible, we should all pray for him and make sure he gets treated for his affliction

also, we must keep in mind, porn is a product of Satan, in the beginning was Adam not tempted by this very thing, the flesh, who are we to judge?

 

[deep]

I lost 10s of thousands of dollars today without leaving the house


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/20/u...ley-madison-stimulus.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1



all markets are down today, of course we have Greek, and China issues, but I can't help but think anyone with a Ashley account would be nervous enough to pull back a bit on their investments.

If I had an Ashley account, I would delete, close the credit card, report it stolen and become the most decent attentive husband my wife really deserved. Of course, in reality she would probably already know I was a bit of a distant, neglectful dick. If we had kids I hope she would not go to one of the sites and do any searching but just watch and decide if it is worth being married to a reformed person.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Reading some of the stories that have come out here is what the bigger issue is... There was a news interview I read where a woman, who's husband admitted to using the site, coulsnt find his email in the drop... but did find hers. Not as over of the paid accounts, but as one of the free accounts that require no credit card and zero proof of identity.

I get the gloating and curiousness of people here... And it's hard to sympathize with those who truly did have a paid account and used it for no good... but I can't support hacking of this nature as the reality is... What's next?

Every time this happens it's just a reminder of how dangerous the internet really is.