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Old 02-12-2013, 12:16 AM   #1
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Artificial 4.9 to 5.1 earthquake detected in North Korea

In other words, they've conducted their third nuclear test. This one much larger than the prior two.

North Korea appears to conduct 3rd nuclear test, officials and experts say - CNN.com

(URGENT) Magnitude 5.1 artificial earthquake detected in N. Korea at 11:58 a.m. | YONHAP NEWS

Does the theory of mutually assured destruction apply when a rogue state is involved?
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Ugh, this is getting ridiculous. What are they trying to prove?
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:10 AM   #3
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Does the theory of mutually assured destruction apply when a rogue state is involved?
We should unilaterally kick their ass while we still can. Three generations of crazy. Hopefully Kim Jong Un's testicles were irradiated by the blast.
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A nuclear temper tantrum
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N Korea has nukes
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Time to invade them before they nuke the whole world.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:25 AM   #7
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Hey, gotta nuke something.
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Oh puleez. This is the sabre rattling of a state on its last legs. It's like a dying bear in a cave somewhere. Sure, it can do damage, but the main message is, leave us alone.
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I read somewhere that their current nuclear capability is less than where America's was...in 1946. If they were stupid enough to attempt a nuclear attack S Korea, they know with absolute certainty that America would nuke them off the face off the Earth (quite literally). The real concern here is that the nuclear material will fall into the hands of terrorists and made into a suitcase bomb. However, N Korea is so incredibly insular that international terrorists will likely go shopping for radioactive material in Iran instead.
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Does anything think for one second that North Korea gets to so much as sneeze without China knowing about it?

China will euthanaise North Korea. It will bear the gentle pillow.
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Yeah, I still worry about the one nutcase that gets his hand on the stuff more than North Korea or Iran. Morgan Freeman says something similar in the film "Sum of all Fears". Good movie.
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The most plausible way for that one nutcase to get his hands on a nuclear weapon would be from one of those two countries, though.
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I've been wondering how this kid (literally, he's a kid) was able to get into power. You'd think one of the generals would knock him off because he's young and inexperienced. He might be a figurehead, though, but even then, why keep him? Sounds like the North Korean government would much prefer having an image of stability rather than a chaotic one with the generals fighting over who should obtain power.

Just wondering aloud...
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I read somewhere that their current nuclear capability is less than where America's was...in 1946. If they were stupid enough to attempt a nuclear attack S Korea, they know with absolute certainty that America would nuke them off the face off the Earth (quite literally).
Considering the fallout would would drift into South Korea or China, no they would absolutely not "nuke them off the face of the Earth". The real issue is that North Korea now has a major deterrent to use against US and their allies if they finally decide to invade the South. They've come to the brink of war pretty much twice in the last 3 years. The last time, bringing nearly their entire active army to the DMZ, and sitting them there for almost a week. The US and allies were at the highest state of military readiness in the region since Vietnam at the time. From what I've heard, servicemen stationed there were absolutely horrified. Since, they've seen massive amounts of troops stationed in Korea choose to retire when their tours were up.

The US has around 28,500 troops in S. Korea. The S. Korean military is around 600,000 troops, with almost 3 million reserves. N. Korea's military on the other hand, 1.1 million active troops, nearly 5 million conscripted "fit for service" reserves. The planned "strategy" is that the active troops from both the South and the US would immediately begin retreating if the North attacked, in the hopes they could reach and hold the Korean Peninsula until reinforcements arrive. The hope is that they won't be completely decimated in this retreat, and will be able to hold out here like the last war. It's generally assumed the US ground troops would be almost entirely wiped out, which in turn will call for massive sentiment in the US to send reinforcements.

Here lies the danger with N. Korea having nuclear weapons and fairly capable missile delivery systems. The first assumed "reinforcements" will come from the primary US staging area in Asia, Japan. Of course N. Korea wouldn't want to nuke the South, but like most everyone else in Asia, they would absolutely love to get back at Japan for WW2. Even a "threatened" nuclear strike on the military base in Okinawa (nearly 40,000 Americans stationed here) could make US and allies drastically reconsider an attempt to reinforce or support the South. It's a terrifying prospect.
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You'd think one of the generals would knock him off because he's young and inexperienced. He might be a figurehead, though, but even then, why keep him? Sounds like the North Korean government would much prefer having an image of stability rather than a chaotic one with the generals fighting over who should obtain power.
Because his father was, quite literally, regarded as a God.

That being said, there are many top generals with the thoughts and ideas you suggested.
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