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Arizona governor signs immigration law; foes promise fight


Moments after Gov. Jan Brewer signed Arizona's controversial new immigration law Friday, opponents promised legal challenges and economic sanctions against a state still reeling from the housing meltdown.

Before and after Senate Bill 1070 became law at 1:30 p.m., civil unrest punctuated by loud protests and several minor clashes took place at the state Capitol, where more than 1,500 people gathered to chant, pray and either praise or castigate the Republican governor.

At least four protesters were arrested, several after hurling water bottles at police officers in riot gear.

Brewer, who faces a stiff primary challenge and needs conservatives to keep her in office, said the law represents another tool for the state to "work to solve a crisis we did not create and the federal government has refused to fix - the crisis caused by illegal immigration and Arizona's porous border."

The legislation put Arizona in the national spotlight, with President Barack Obama weighing in on it earlier in the day and cable-news giant CNN broadcasting live Brewer's signing and the Capitol demonstrations.

Even the Mexican government issued a formal statement, saying it "laments that Arizona lawmakers and the executive branch didn't take into account immigrants' contributions - economically, socially and culturally."

"The criminalization isn't the path to resolve the undocumented-immigration phenomenon," the statement added.

The legislation has widespread support among Arizonans, according to one recent poll, but Latino leaders compared the bill to apartheid in South Africa and the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II. A handful of teenage girls, among the hundreds of high-school students attending a Statehouse rally, openly wept after it was announced that Brewer signed the bill.

"This is the most reprehensible thing since the Japanese internment," said Alfredo Gutierrez, a former state senator and community leader. "This is the saddest day for me. It's shameful."

Arizona's immigration law, now considered the toughest in the nation, makes it a state crime to be in the country illegally and requires local police to enforce federal immigration laws. It will require anyone whom police suspect of being in the country illegally to produce "an alien registration document," such as a green card or other proof of citizenship, such as a passport or Arizona driver's license.

It also makes it illegal to impede the flow of traffic by picking up day laborers for work. A day laborer who gets picked up for work, and traffic is impeded in the process, would also be committing a criminal act.

The law goes into effect 90 days after the current legislative session ends, likely in early May.

Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, the bill's sponsor, called it "a good day for America," saying the law is reasonable.

Best for Arizona

After receiving intense pressure from both sides during the past week, the governor stepped to a lectern in a crowded room near the Capitol and said she would sign SB 1070 into law.

"This bill strengthens the laws of our state, protects all of us, every Arizona citizen," she said. "It does so while ensuring that the constitutional rights of all remain solid, stable."

Brewer said that she listened patiently to supporters and opponents and that, although "many people disagree, I firmly believe it represents what's best for Arizona." She criticized the federal government for a lack of action to secure the border, and she said her signature provided "security within our borders."

"We cannot sacrifice our safety to the murderous greed of drug cartels," Brewer said. "We cannot stand idly by as drophouses, kidnappings and violence compromise our quality of life."

Brewer insisted that protections built into the bill and training she has requested from the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board will protect citizens against discrimination based on race or color. Yet law enforcement has been split over the bill, with many rank-and-file officer groups supporting it and the police chiefs association opposing it.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is among the supporters who believe it will give officers more tools to detain illegal immigrants.

Critics suggest the law opens the door for police to make unreasonable stops based on skin color or a lack of English fluency if there's probable cause to believe someone is in America illegally.

"We've got some very serious crime problems out there, and this bill does not address them. It does not give us tools to go after criminals that are part of the cartels," said Attorney General Terry Goddard, a Democrat who is running for governor.

The faith community also weighed in, with clergy criticizing the law and calling for calm.

Inside a chapel at Queen of Peace in Mesa, a congregation gathered for a monthly healing Mass.

Father Charlie Goraieb comforted his congregation, saying in Spanish, "It's going to be all right."

His parish is 60 percent Latino.

"It's a terrible situation and a reflection of fear and overreaction and total loss of perspective and how we are as a people and as a nation," he said before Mass.

Josefina Martinez, 56, of Phoenix, said, "I lived here for 25 years. I never had to deal with this. It's not fair."

Earlier in the day, Rabbi Maynard Bell, the Arizona office of the American Jewish Committee's area director, said the law makes a laughingstock of the state and does nothing to make the border with Mexico more secure.

"It's going to cost the state economically. It's going to tarnish the state's image. It's a lamentable day for Arizona," Bell said. "I don't think it will stand up to legal tests."

Legal fights

Just after Brewer signed the bill, opponents promised legal and economic fights.

Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon said he will ask the City Council on Tuesday to consider suing the state on grounds the new immigration law is unconstitutional and unenforceable.

The American Civil Liberties Union and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, a civil-rights group, promised to fight implementation of the law by challenging its constitutionality. But the ACLU said the timing and strategy have to be worked out.

"We are definitely planning on filing a lawsuit," said Alessandra Soler Meetze, the group's Arizona executive director. "This is a direct attempt by Arizona to regulate immigration laws. And it's forbidden by the federal government."

Bill opponent Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Phoenix, said that the legislation violates the rights of all Arizonans and that a legal team will seek an injunction to keep the law from being implemented.

Gutierrez said he will lead efforts for economic sanctions against Arizona. He declined to disclose details, but one proposed sanction would include boycotts by out-of-state tourists.

Capitol protests

At the Capitol, demonstrators exchanged catcalls after Brewer's announcement, and roughly 80 police officers from the Capitol Police, the state Department of Public Safety and the Phoenix Police Department worked to maintain order.

There were at least two breakouts of unruly behavior. One occurred when a white-haired man with a beard agitated demonstrators opposing the bill. Police tried to calm the crowd as it closed around the man, who was escorted away. Dozens of demonstrators ran into the streets, and police formed a long human barrier on West Jefferson Street just south of the Capitol complex.

Amid shouting and chanting all day, police made sure the sides were separated. Supporters of the bill stayed in the courtyard between the House and Senate buildings, guarded by police and roped off with police tape.

Supporter Terry Irish of Chandler was elated when Brewer announced her decision.

"This thing wouldn't be happening if they had sealed our borders," Irish said.

Those leading the rally urged protesters to follow the example of civil-rights leader Cesar Chavez, who in 1972 led the unionization of farmworkers in direct opposition to Arizona law. They also urged peaceful opposition, and despite several flare-ups, no serious injuries were reported.

In southern Arizona, however, U.S. Rep. Raúl Grijalva, who opposed the law, closed his offices at noon after receiving multiple threats.

Arizona has about 460,000 undocumented immigrants, according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Currently, immigration offenses are violations of federal law, something most local law-enforcement agencies cannot enforce.

Pearce, the Mesa Republican, has been working with groups across the state and nation for years to craft legislation that would toughen enforcement.

Republic reporters Scott Wong, Sadie Jo Smokey, Casey Newton, Mary Jo Pitzl and Angelique Soenarie contributed to this article.

Arizona governor signs immigration law; foes promise fight



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didn't the Nazis always want to see your papers?

i guess sucks to be brown and in Arizona! you are now the scapegoat for the economic collapse! congratulations! way to go not-racist-at-all Republicans! so glad we're giving the hated, source-of-all-evil GOVERNMENT the power to do all this!
 
papers, please.

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At least four protesters were arrested, several after hurling water bottles at police officers in riot gear.
civil unrest punctuated by loud protests and several minor clashes
demonstrators exchanged catcalls
There were at least two breakouts of unruly behavior

Funny how all those FYM posters so worried and concerned about "angry mobs," "hostility aimed at government," "incivility towards lawmakers" and "Hitler signs" the past few months... no longer seem to have those fears. In fact have already started in with the Nazi references.

Delicious.
 
You really don't understand the difference, do you?

Actually, I know that you do. You just like to enrage.
If this Arizona Bill is not something you think is right - what would you suggest to securing the border (if you think it should be secured at all).
 
The bill would put Arizona police in an impossible position on search and seizure. The courts will probably force the bill to be scaled back a bit.

But kudos to the state for getting the ball rolling on this issue.
 
Great job, GOP. Just in time for an election with a large Latino electorate. Heckuva job!
 
no longer seem to have those fears. In fact have already started in with the Nazi references.

If you can't tell the difference between THESE Nazi references and people calling Obama Hitler, then you're being willfully ignorant.

Or, as is more likely the case with you in particular, stop trying to get a rise out of people. You're smarter than that - you know the difference.
 
Posted before but worth repeating:

Reductio ad Hitlerum, also argumentum ad Hitlerum, (dog Latin for "reduction to Hitler" or "argument to Hitler," respectively) is an ad hominem or ad misericordiam argument, and is an informal fallacy. It is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based solely on something or someone's origin rather than its current meaning or context. This overlooks any difference to be found in the present situation, typically transferring the positive or negative esteem from the earlier context. Hence this fallacy fails to examine the claim on its merit.

Its name is a pun on reductio ad absurdum, and was coined by an academic ethicist, Leo Strauss, in 1953. Engaging in this fallacy is sometimes known as playing the Nazi card –wikipedia
 
i dont like the idea of local / state police being able to stop someone solely on looking like an illegal. (that's my job :D)

i do like local and state police being able to enforce immigration law when they do pick up someone for something else and find out they are illegal.
 
If this Arizona Bill is not something you think is right - what would you suggest to securing the border (if you think it should be secured at all).
This bill is not about securing the border. It's about allowing cops to be racist. All I read from that is, "Hispanic people now have a burden of proof every single time a cop's around." Legal immigrants will be harassed constantly. People who've been here for generations. Just because of this bill.
 
If you can't tell the difference between THESE Nazi references and people calling Obama Hitler, then you're being willfully ignorant.

Or, as is more likely the case with you in particular, stop trying to get a rise out of people. You're smarter than that - you know the difference.

I live in a college town. I know for Philly and maybe even yourself, being "carded" is part of your lexicon. And whether or not you are "carded" is based on what? Profiling, age profiling. In addition, the subjective judgement by authority figures of your sobriety is constantly being gauged.

Now citizens of Arizona who oppose this bill have every right to protest and show their displeasure. Please afford the "Teabaggers" the same right without labeling them all, well, Teabaggers or ignorant rubes, racists or Tim McVeigh wannabes.
 
This bill is not about securing the border. It's about allowing cops to be racist.


Do you honestly think that is the true intention of the bill?

I'm still not clear what you're proposing as an alternative solution in securing our border.
 
If this were enforced fairly...


well there's nothing really fair or unfair about it. cop stops them for something, find out they are "illegally in the country" and send them to an immigration judge, or ICE. that's the way it works (or should work). fairly black and white. leave the gray areas to the judge.

local / state police having the training in immigration law such as basic classes of admission, lengths of stay, visa & green card requirements, how to spot fraudulent documents, knowing what to do with persons "illegally in the country" when they pick them up for something else, and working with federal agencies is a good thing.

stopping someone on the street ONLY because they "look like" they are "illegally in the country" isnt.
 
Do you honestly think that is the true intention of the bill?

I'm still not clear what you're proposing as an alternative solution in securing our border.
I don't know what the intention is, I'm just saying what the result is.

I don't feel the need to propose an alternate solution to securing our border because this bill does literally nothing to secure our border. All this does is deal with those who have already crossed the border. Those are two very different issues, to me.
 
I live in a college town. I know for Philly and maybe even yourself, being "carded" is part of your lexicon. And whether or not you are "carded" is based on what? Profiling, age profiling. In addition, the subjective judgement by authority figures of your sobriety is constantly being gauged.

Now citizens of Arizona who oppose this bill have every right to protest and show their displeasure. Please afford the "Teabaggers" the same right without labeling them all, well, Teabaggers or ignorant rubes, racists or Tim McVeigh wannabes.
Are you really comparing carding and sobriety checks to racial profiling? That's a faulty premise, and you know it.

I don't like protesters who get out of hand on either side, for the record. I think Nazism is also brought up way, way too often (even though it at least has logical sense on one side).
 
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