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Old 09-10-2008, 02:17 PM   #46
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I think it should be. Teach both. Spend more time on evolution, since it would be taught in science class and evolution is more science-y
What part of ID is "science-y" exactly?

Feel free to teach ID. In philosophy or religion class, where it belongs.
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:26 PM   #47
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You can't have the same teacher teach both. One scientifically disproves the other. One says that God created the Earth several thousand years ago. One, in part, uses geological studies - the study of rock, the core of the earth - to prove conclusively that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old. One contradicts the other. You can't teach the scientific viewpoint, which has proof, and then say, 'and here's this other viewpoint that's been disproven by science, but you can believe it anyway if you want to'. That can't work, imo.
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In high school we were taught a bunch of different theories of creation. I wouldn't really call it "taught", more like "presented". ID was one of them, but the teacher was not teaching it as scientific proof, just throwing them all out there. Just like in religion classes we studied the origins of many religions, regardless of whether any of them are "true".
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I went to a religious high school (Catholic) and we were most certainly never taught ID in a science class.

Creationist myths were taught in religion class.
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I went to a religious high school (Catholic) and we were most certainly never taught ID in a science class.

Creationist myths were taught in religion class.
same here. I actually went to a catholic seminary and we were taught evolution in our science classes. Genesis was a book of the bible, but we were never expected to take it literally.
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It's really surreal when the Catholic church seems modern and open to reality.
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i hope there's a God, but i doubt it, though i could be wrong.

still, after all the revelation and stuff, doesn't everlasting life or whatever sound like it might get old after a while?
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"A person should not believe in an "-ism," he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me."

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With your bad knee, you shouldn't be throwing anybody.
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Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects?
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You can't have the same teacher teach both. One scientifically disproves the other. One says that God created the Earth several thousand years ago. One, in part, uses geological studies - the study of rock, the core of the earth - to prove conclusively that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old. One contradicts the other. You can't teach the scientific viewpoint, which has proof, and then say, 'and here's this other viewpoint that's been disproven by science, but you can believe it anyway if you want to'. That can't work, imo.
Nonsense. One does not neccesarily "disprove the other" - if your talking a purely fundamentalist view (the earth is only 6000 years old) then yes, you're right...but that isn't intelligent design is it? I thought intelligent design is simply allowing for the possibility of a creator. Why are so many people in the secular world afraid of that??? Have an open mind people. Evolution and Creation can co-exist despite what certain "christians" will tell you.
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Nonsense. One does not neccesarily "disprove the other" - if your talking a purely fundamentalist view (the earth is only 6000 years old) then yes, you're right...but that isn't intelligent design is it? I thought intelligent design is simply allowing for the possibility of a creator. Why are so many people in the secular world afraid of that??? Have an open mind people. Evolution and Creation can co-exist despite what certain "christians" will tell you.


it's not, though, Harry. ID is an explicitly Christianist concept designed to have a patina of pseudo-scientific "credibility" that's a Trojan Horse for a fundamentalist agenda.

Intelligent design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

evolution and creationism cannot coexist on a creationist's terms.
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Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects?
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid, who's going out with this girl who saw Ferris pass out at the 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid, who's going out with this girl who saw Ferris pass out at the 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

thank you, Simone.
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thank you, sloane.
No problem whatsoever.










Btw, Sloane was Ferris' girlfriend. Simone was the girl in class who said that line. Duh.
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Btw, Sloane was Ferris' girlfriend. Simone was the girl in class who said that line. Duh.



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