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duly and humbly noted. and corrected.
Mr Rooney...Ed, you're a beautiful man. I want to thank you for your warmth and compassion.
duly and humbly noted. and corrected.
it's not, though, Harry. ID is an explicitly Christianist concept designed to have a patina of pseudo-scientific "credibility" that's a Trojan Horse for a fundamentalist agenda.
Intelligent design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
evolution and creationism cannot coexist on a creationist's terms.
O.K. then. Forget it. Someone (like all kinds of "believers" in a creator) should come up with a more unbiased (towards stricly "Christian") intelligent design theory. Wouldn't that be alright???
O.K. then. Forget it. Someone (like all kinds of "believers" in a creator) should come up with a more unbiased (towards stricly "Christian") intelligent design theory. Wouldn't that be alright???
Yes, you do.I think it should be. Teach both. Spend more time on evolution, since it would be taught in science class and evolution is more science-y, but spend a little time (a few hours, days, whatever) going over creationism, and let the kids make up their minds and research what they want to research.
I know. I have such an extreme, far-right, anti-science point of view.
No, evolution removes the need for a creator to explain the diversity and complexity of life. You may believe in a creator and accept evolution, but the creator is superfluous.Nonsense. One does not neccesarily "disprove the other" - if your talking a purely fundamentalist view (the earth is only 6000 years old) then yes, you're right...but that isn't intelligent design is it? I thought intelligent design is simply allowing for the possibility of a creator. Why are so many people in the secular world afraid of that??? Have an open mind people. Evolution and Creation can co-exist despite what certain "christians" will tell you.
It's called "evolutionary creationism," or "theistic evolution." It's the scientific Theory of Evolution with a "...but it was created by God" suffix appended to it.
In other words, there's no need to teach anything but science in a science class.
Going along the theistic evolution route, what justifies the assertion that God created evolution?
Natural selection is a property of replication, heritable variation and differential survival; a process that will occur wherever those preconditions are met (I would suppose that would include other possible worlds too). Evolution doesn't need a creator, it is an emergent property of systems that meet those preconditions; those preconditions do not necessarily need a creator - although that comes to questions about the origin of universes and worlds which are beyond the purview of science at this point in time.
I respect that unlike other creationists the theistic evolution approach abides by the NOMA concept and becomes a matter of personal faith, but I can't help feeling that it relegates God to a first cause that is irrelevant in our day to day lives; what differentiates that sort of belief system from pantheism or deism?
These threads never disappoint!
Okay, how do you people feel about politicians taking their oath of office on other than the Bible. Like, for example, the Qur'an? Or, would you ever vote for an atheist president?
Best,
Jason
I couldn't care less about someone's personal life.
These threads never disappoint!
Okay, how do you people feel about politicians taking their oath of office on other than the Bible. Like, for example, the Qur'an? Or, would you ever vote for an atheist president?
Best,
Jason
These threads never disappoint!
Okay, how do you people feel about politicians taking their oath of office on other than the Bible. Like, for example, the Qur'an? Or, would you ever vote for an atheist president?
Best,
Jason
But what if you found out they ate babies?
But what if you found out they ate babies?
Instead of clubbing baby seals, I like to take baby seals clubbing.
But what if you found out they ate babies?
I honestly don't know what I believe anymore. Life has fucked me in the head and shaken me to the core. I'm actually pretty uncomfortable with that. I'd love to talk to somebody about it, but I've no idea who to go to. I don't want someone imposing beliefs on me, I'd just like some assistance sorting things out.
life will do that.
the best thing i've found is Buddhism. when i don't go on Wednesdays, i feel the dread start to creep in. the meditation and teachings (of which i only find about 50% to be actually applicable, but as religions go, that's pretty good) are tremendously clarifying.
there are times when i feel like saying, "fuck it all" and just moving to, say, Kauai or Santa Fe and meditating for the next 50 years. and perhaps that's the sanest thing to do.
but anyone who looks at all of the curveballs that life throws at you and exclaims, "well, golly, it's all just part of God's Plan," really needs to get a freaking grip on the suffering of humanity.
the best we can do is deal with it, and keep perspective, and offer as much compassion and we possibly can to one another.
in many ways, when it comes to dealing with life here on earth, God has nothing to do with it. just like Tina Turner sang.
So, yeah, I believe in love.
in some ways, it's all we have. and it's the love we give each other -- knowing that you are loved, and loved always in all ways, is *the* reason to get up in the morning.
eff "god" and "jesus" and "mohammad" and whoever the fuck else. they all amount to little more than Santa Clause when the going gets tough.
all we have is each other.