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Old 07-19-2010, 07:17 AM   #406
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It's unsavory term, yes, and not one I'd be likely to use, but what it means is not without merit. Do you know what a so-called "Uncle Tom" is?

I'm sure Mfume would agree that any African-American is entitled to his or her opinion. He is also entitled to think that opinion is stupid and self-hating.

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" As far as Mfume and the rest of the NAACP leadership is concerned, any display of a Confederate flag is inherently racist."



Um, YEAH. I'm sorry, but any display of the Confederate flag that is intended to honor and show respect to the Confederacy IS inherently racist. Period. End of story. Granted, there may be whites who don't understand that and thus display the flag without any racist intent, but that is ignorance. They don't understand what the flag means to most black people. The flag belongs in a museum. The Confederacy should not be lauded, honored, respected at all. It stood for Americans being willing to fight and die to for their states' right to enslave other human beings. It is a shame. Not only that but it has continued to be used by racist groups such as the KKK that desire to keep black people down.

To be honest, every time I see that flag on a car or in front of a house, it makes me feel just a little nervous.
It is what happened after the War, that disturbs me the most. allowing millions of blacks to starve in spite of their new freedom, is one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen. They aloowed the Soutern land owners, to continue what happened before the war, to continue, which in my eyes, dimishing anything that was accomplished by the war. Which was essentially nothing.

It was one of the worst examples of the new "freedom" , besides the obvious, that I have ever seen.

Of course you are right, some of the things like croatia , Bosnia, was pretty bad in it'self. It still goes on to this day.

There is a store in Canton Ga, who's whole deal is celebrating the civil war. I am not one that usually says " that should be gone, but this store makes me sick to my stomache . atrocious !!!

But at the same time, things that Smitherman,Rev Lynch ( whose father was a hero of the civil rights movment ) say amd prech every single day , that are no different than the other haters , like the owners of this store. They preach hate , pure, evil hate. The scary thing is people still buy into it . Oh, lets add Nate Livingston to that group.

I often wonder what MLK would say about what is going on these days . On both sides. I don't think he would be silent about it.

"Confederate flag is inherently racist" In general , I would agree to that. There are a few who have never read a history book, and think it means " Freebird", but that would be a small group.
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:25 AM   #407
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Have you seen the documentary Beck did on the Black hero's of the foundation of this country? It is a fantastic piece, mysteriously scrubbed by the history books. He is on a mission to put it back in.

Let me see if I can get permission to link it in it's entirety . It was a wonderful , hopefull, and something not very well known today, but there were many, many hero's, black heros. that deseserve to be there.
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:51 AM   #408
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"maybe to Democrats credit it was only after all that and the plane crashing into the IRS building and the Times Square bomber couldn't be pinned on Tea Baggers that the race card got played. "

Wait a minute. The race card wasn't played until the IRS plane crash ( irate tazpayers have been doing stufff like that for years btw, Wesley Snipes, just in without the plane) and the Time Square bombing was when the race card was played?

Biden and Reids comments were WAY before that. before the election.

Do you think that is is POSSIBLE , repeat POSSIBLE that an articulate Black man was picked for a reason beyond his experience, or lack of? He or Hillary , were expected to push through some pretty radical legislation. Do you think it is remotely possible that having the card in the sleeve would be in anyway , a political edge ? I am not saying it is or isnt. But do you think it is possible ?

Polticians of all types think about that stuff you know.
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:57 AM   #409
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"I'm sure Mfume would agree that any African-American is entitled to his or her opinion. He is also entitled to think that opinion is stupid and self-hating"

Does he think any American is entitled to his or her Opinion ? Does that other American have the right to think that opinion is stupid or self serving? Or is it a one way street?

Racism, no matter who says it, thinks it, or where it came from is to me, sick. But I am seeeing a lot of double standard in the world today.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:08 AM   #410
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scroll back. I posted it.
Oh, I see it now, earlier I couldn't get it to scroll past the video.

Well good for the them, they did one thing right.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:10 AM   #411
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Actually, the Klan had a relatively brief period of popularity in the 1860s -- formed in the South response to the Emancipation Proclamation and the aftermath of the Civil War -- but was virtually extinct by the 1870s, when the federal government began prosecuting them. The Klan didn't return to national prominence until after D.W. Griffith's "Birth of a Nation" in 1915, but by 1930 was once again defunct. The third wave of the Klan was created in response to the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s, as well as the Civil Rights Act. They're a great example of what I'm talking about -- a mob that operates outside the law because it doesn't agree with said laws.

"Actually, the Klan had a relatively brief period of popularity in the 1860s -- formed in the South response to the Emancipation Proclamation and the aftermath of the Civil War --"

This would be a good time period to examine, particularly what was going on in the State of TN, and how it lead to a very violent time and resurgence of the clan.
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Oh, I see it now, earlier I couldn't get it to scroll past the video.

Well good for the them, they did one thing right.
They do not tolerate this stuff. Not at all. They really don't, as being that there really is no leadership, when something like this happens, Nationally, or at a rally, it is quickly delt with.

They have ZERO tolerance for it. They don't accept it, nor do they need or want it.

There are way more one things that have happened in their history. Zero tolerance. It is not what they are about. In no shape or form.
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They do not tolerate this stuff. Not at all. They really don't, as being that there really is no leadership, when something like this happens, Nationally, or at a rally, it is quickly delt with.

They have ZERO tolerance for it. They don't accept it, nor do they need or want it.

There are way more one things that have happened in their history. Zero tolerance. It is not what they are about. In no shape or form.
Look, I'm glad they dealt with Williams and his blatant racism, but to say they have zero tolerance is just ridiculous and turning a blind eye on to what is going on. William's letter is by no means the first example that was shown, it was just probably the most public display by someone with a leadership role.
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Look, I'm glad they dealt with Williams and his blatant racism, but to say they have zero tolerance is just ridiculous and turning a blind eye on to what is going on. William's letter is by no means the first example that was shown, it was just probably the most public display by someone with a leadership role.

Tea party not a racist movement, Biden says - Politics - msnbc.com From the Vice President of the United States

when I say zero tolerance, that is from the ground up, sideways, and to the top.
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Look, I'm glad they dealt with Williams and his blatant racism, but to say they have zero tolerance is just ridiculous and turning a blind eye on to what is going on. William's letter is by no means the first example that was shown, it was just probably the most public display by someone with a leadership role.

William's letter is by no means the first example that was shown, it was just probably the most public display by someone with a leadership role.

Show me all these others please.

Then I will show you many, many blatant racist statements, in their own words, of reverse racisim.

Racism, in any form in unacceptable to many people. It would be the norm rather than the exception to not be with it. Against it would be a heavy majority.
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William's letter is by no means the first example that was shown, it was just probably the most public display by someone with a leadership role.
Williams had a long and illustrious prior history of making racist comments long before he was finally booted for this letter. The man has been a public bigot for a very long time. In the event that you're unaware of what else he said before this letter, here are a few gems:

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President Jimmy Carter is a "creepy faggot."

"[R]epeat after me: Islam is a 7th Century Death Cult coughed up by a psychotic pedophile and embraced by defective, tail sprouting, tree swinging, semi-human, bipedal primates with no claim to be treated like human beings or even desirable mammals for that matter."
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when I say zero tolerance, that is from the ground up, sideways, and to the top.
And I say you're blind if you truly believe this. This thread is filled with examples that show otherwise.

There is a reason Beck has asked people not to bring signs to the next rally, he doesn't want people to expose their ignorance.
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask. But, does anyone know what the Health Care Bill is really about? And what happens to those who chose private insurance coverage? Did Congress read it? And can we?
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask. But, does anyone know what the Health Care Bill is really about? And what happens to those who chose private insurance coverage? Did Congress read it? And can we?
Probably a better thread to ask:

http://www.u2interference.com/forums...-a-201358.html

It's up to you who you choose to believe.
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Thanks! I did place it in the wrong thread. Please, ignore my above post.
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