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Old 04-15-2009, 05:08 PM   #16
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well I for one am a supporter of the tea parties I was going to go to one in my town, just to express how I feel about a lot of the unnecessary spending that is going in the US, it's not just Obama it's the government in general, money is going to a lot of things that it shouldn't be going to at the moment, we should be focusing on getting America out of the debt we are in and focusing on figuring out how we got there, and how to get out. The money shouldn't be going to banks, or CIOS of all the companies that took money from everyone else in the first place, it should be going back to the American people. Raising Taxes and cutting fundings, that are important like higher education is not the answer at all, there is more, but I don't want to blabber on and on
Later on you talk about reading the facts, you may want to take some of your own advice.

Can you tell me which of your taxes have been raised?

Where would businesses get money if banks went banckrupt? It sucks, yes, but honestly you would never get loaned another dime if all the banks stopped lending.

Where is higher education funding being cut, I'm a little confused.

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I also agree with what Deep said about Bush. Bush was great, he did a lot for this country, even though there are some that are angry at him, he was still a great president, but no matter who is in office someone is going to be upset no matter what, baggers can't be choosers.
Deep was being facetious.

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Obama has got to read the facts, etc before he starts saying lets do this lets do that, figure out how we got here, what to do, and to take action ASAP. Not just trowing money around everywhere, and blabbing on about his new dog ( which I think his dog is kind of cute by the way), and saying I will be bring change. Instead of saying it do it, but before you do please know what the heck you are doing first and read the facts.
What was that you were saying about Bush?


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Also the government needs to be working together regardless of the party you are in the American people want you to work together who gives a crap if you're a democrat or a republican or a monkeyfor all I care, give off your butts, stop fighting, and work together. Again I don't want to blabber on.
Well we can agree on this...

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So personally I don't think these people are stupid for standing up what they believe in, some are more radical then others, but heck each it's own I say.
No, they aren't stupid for standing up for what they believe in, it's just most don't even know what they are standing up for...
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:48 PM   #17
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Later on you talk about reading the facts, you may want to take some of your own advice.
I read a lot of my own facts, it's the matter of if you agree with them or not

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Can you tell me which of your taxes have been raised?
Well there are taxes being raised just about everywhere right now, food, gas, etc

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Where would businesses get money if banks went banckrupt? It sucks, yes, but honestly you would never get loaned another dime if all the banks stopped lending.
Thats true...But still sucks lol

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Where is higher education funding being cut, I'm a little confused.
That just happened here yesterday where I am at they just cut over 300 million dollars in higher education fund other garbage that is not neasscary right now, I got the e-mail from the college I going to, from the board etc, because of this a lot of student including myself, will lose fundings, etc for our schooling.





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No, they aren't stupid for standing up for what they believe in, it's just most don't even know what they are standing up for...
Well as I always say each it own, a lot of people when they are upset about something go on on about stuff that they might not know what they are standing up for or saying, it happens we're only human,let them speak their minds and heart until they turn blue.

"the right to be ridicules is something I hold dear" I probably spelled that wrong lol but I had to quote that lol cause I agree with that
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:09 PM   #18
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Oh jeez, check out how dumb some people are:

YouTube - CNN Reporter Harassed at Chicago "Tea-Party"
What a horrible reporter. She should be fired, unless she is out in the open about her political stances, of course.
She should have let the idiot finish what he was saying before interrupting him.
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:13 PM   #19
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Well there are taxes being raised just about everywhere right now, food, gas, etc
I haven't heard of a federal gas tax increase being passed. I heard a lot of talk and speculation, but I haven't seen one pass, do you have any info?

Food? Unprepared food, restaurants, I'm not sure what you are talking about, I haven't seen one of these either.


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That just happened here yesterday where I am at they just cut over 300 million dollars in higher education fund other garbage that is not neasscary right now, I got the e-mail from the college I going to, from the board etc, because of this a lot of student including myself, will lose fundings, etc for our schooling.
Are you talking about federally funded research? Are you talking about grants? Do you go to a federally funded university?


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Well as I always say each it own, a lot of people when they are upset about something go on on about stuff that they might not know what they are standing up for or saying, it happens we're only human,let them speak their minds and heart until they turn blue.
Oh, I'm all for letting them sound ridiculous... No one is stopping them.
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I haven't heard of a federal gas tax increase being passed. I heard a lot of talk and speculation, but I haven't seen one pass, do you have any info?

Food? Unprepared food, restaurants, I'm not sure what you are talking about, I haven't seen one of these either.



Are you talking about federally funded research? Are you talking about grants? Do you go to a federally funded university?




Oh, I'm all for letting them sound ridiculous... No one is stopping them.
Maybe the food taxes, etc are just where I am I just happened to notice it recently well shopping, etc. It use to be a 6% tax on our shopping now it's 8%-10%

With the gas maybe I was referring to it going up, it's down now, but it will up again. Maybe I got a little confused lol

I go to a community college right now I'm rely on grants and federal aid to be able to go to school without it I wouldn't be going. This all just happened yesterday, so I'm still learning more on it.
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What a horrible reporter. She should be fired, unless she is out in the open about her political stances, of course.
She should have let the idiot finish what he was saying before interrupting him.
I couldn't agree more on that one, I would of grabbed her mic and kept talking, telling her to shut up and let me finish
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My favourite are the people who say that last year they made $255K so this year they're gonna MAKE SURE that they make only $249K because they don't want to be "taxed through the roof" since Obama raised taxes.

Epic failure to understand the very basics of a marginal tax system.
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Under the new plan, my mother and my brother actually have less taxes taken out of their paychecks, increasing the amount they take home. I don't get paid until tomorrow, but I think I'll have less taken out of mine too.

I find it hard to feel sorry for people making $255,000 a year.
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Maybe the food taxes, etc are just where I am I just happened to notice it recently well shopping, etc. It use to be a 6% tax on our shopping now it's 8%-10%
You sure that's not a local tax increase?


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With the gas maybe I was referring to it going up, it's down now, but it will up again. Maybe I got a little confused lol
Yeah, so far no federal tax increase has occurred on gas.


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I go to a community college right now I'm rely on grants and federal aid to be able to go to school without it I wouldn't be going. This all just happened yesterday, so I'm still learning more on it.
Yeah, keep us updated as to what you find out, I'd be interested for everything I've read higher education is one of the places this administration wants increase spending on, not decrease...

You see? I think this is part of the problem with these tea parties, no one really knows what they are complaining about, I mean some do, some are just hardcore anti-government spending on anything... No one likes deficit spending, but this isn't new, Bush was pretty good at it, so why are some concerned all of a sudden? Yes, we don't like to hear that banks are getting bailed out, but we all like it when the banks can lend for our small businesses.

I guarantee you, if this exact stimulous plan was being done by McCain none of these people would be protesting, but like now there would still be complaining on both sides. The only difference would be there would be less talk about corporations and instead of money going to green energies it would be going to drilling in Alaska and it would be the environmentalists protesting on 4/20.
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My favourite are the people who say that last year they made $255K so this year they're gonna MAKE SURE that they make only $249K because they don't want to be "taxed through the roof" since Obama raised taxes.

Epic failure to understand the very basics of a marginal tax system.
LOL. I will accept the extra $6K and gladly pay the tax on it too!

And I agree with BVS, when I heard about these tea parties I thought "why?" and when it was not clear to me, I stopped paying attention.

The only change in taxes and such that has bugged me was the decrease in the amount of federal taxes withheld, but as a credit. I budget to the penny and I get paid the same amount twice a month so I know when my paycheck is a penny off. I noticed I was making more money, so I went to payroll and they explained the tax credit. Well instead of having more money in my pocket, I adjusted my exemptions and Phil is having a set amount withheld because we like coming out even after we do the annual income tax, if not getting a little back. The payroll guy said I probably would have owed money next year if I hadn't made the adjustments. He said he was worried at how few people had come to him and thinks most people don't notice or don't understand how it works. I guess an extra $50/mo really was too good to be true.
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It probably was a local tax just know I noticed it recently

I just get e-mails on the higher education thing here from school, as well as a few students in student government who went and protested today etc at the capital. I know I just got a recent e-mail saying that they senate is going over the funding cut again, but I don't know its all confusing now. Most political stuff is lol

Now I was a supporter for McCain if McCain have won, wouldn't the Obama people be protesting too? No matter who is in office, people are gonna find something to complain about. You can not make one people happy without making another angry.
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Under the new plan, my mother and my brother actually have less taxes taken out of their paychecks, increasing the amount they take home. I don't get paid until tomorrow, but I think I'll have less taken out of mine too.

I find it hard to feel sorry for people making $255,000 a year.

Just be careful b/c it's a tax credit, meaning they are giving you now the money you'd get back next year, if you get money back. I like getting money back and I always like to err on the side of caution so I adjusted our exemptions so we aren't getting this "break".
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I went to one today, and it was great. I'd say 600-700 people here in Bloomington, IL. It's really gotten me pretty fired up and angry. And anyone who wants to say that these were partisan events likely did not go to one. There was just as much anger directed at Bush as there was Obama over the spending. It was great to see hundreds of people like me and millions more across the country who, along with our yet-to-be-conceived children are being enslaved and placed trillions of dollars in debt.

By the way, I'm interested in watching Keith Olbermann tonight. Last night he made a big deal about how these things were ultra-partisan and how nobody would show up and how the camera would show nothing but empty seats and how this would all blow up in our faces. Yet even MSNBC couldn't ignore covering the tea parties today, they were such a success. That won't make Keith happy...

And that CNN lady was a joke. She should be fired. People who are calling these events nothing but anti-government, extreme-right radical demonstrations clearly must feel threatened by them. At the very least, they have no idea what the hell they're talking about.
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Hey 2861, I thought of you today. Glenn Beck is my city today, I drove by the Alamo today to see the crowds but didn't see him.

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I went to one today, and it was great. I'd say 600-700 people here in Bloomington, IL. It's really gotten me pretty fired up and angry. And anyone who wants to say that these were partisan events likely did not go to one. There was just as much anger directed at Bush as there was Obama over the spending. It was great to see hundreds of people like me and millions more across the country who, along with our yet-to-be-conceived children are being enslaved and placed trillions of dollars in debt.

And what exactly were you protesting? I'm asking seriously. I mean why didn't people like you protest last year?
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