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Old 12-03-2008, 08:07 AM   #46
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Does a Marines male partner receive any benefits if he is blown up by an IED?
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:16 AM   #47
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Being of a different sexual orientation doesn't mean they are less equal to any other service men.

In the future I would appreciate if you would stop trying to put words in my mouth.

You've put the words there yourself. If you can't openly serve, then you are not equal. If your partner doesn't get all the same privleges, benefits, and rights as the military husbands and wives then you are not equal.

You've put the words in your own mouth, now you have to deal with the taste.
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Oh SNAP!
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:27 AM   #49
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Being of a different sexual orientation doesn't mean they are less equal to any other service men.
I'd like to see a ""civil union" partner get the same VA benefits any other widow/widower of a fallen serviceman/woman would get.

As far as putting stupid words into your mouth, you do a fine job of that on your own without any help from anyone else.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:31 AM   #50
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I'd like to see a ""civil union" partner get the same VA benefits any other widow/widower of a fallen serviceman/woman would get.

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Insults aside, it sounds like the gay movement has legislation to work on.

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Show of hands, who supports DADT?
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Straight people didn't have to lobby for those benefits- they were merely granted to them by the govt, as far as I know.


All fallen soldiers are equal and deserve completely equal treatment, as do their families
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Show of hands, who supports DADT?
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Insults aside, it sounds like the gay movement has legislation to work on.

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I thought you said gays were treated equally ?

Reminder:

"Being of a different sexual orientation doesn't mean they are less equal to any other service men"

Of course, any attempted legislation would bring out your bigot brethren from Utah to spend money to protect their 'equality'.
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Straight people didn't have to lobby for those benefits- they were merely granted to them by the govt, as far as I know.


All fallen soldiers are equal and deserve completely equal treatment, as do their families
I would support legislation for gay soilders who were unionized with a spouse for the other spouse to recieve military bennies.

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But soldiers who declare a same-sex partnership are automatically thrown out of the military.
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But soldiers who declare a same-sex partnership are automatically thrown out of the military.

Last time I checked no one in America is forced to join the military.

The issue needs to get handled one way or another.

One thing that concerns me is a person that serves his country with benifits in mind foremost, that said -the USA military is voluntary.

If you don't like the bennies offered, fight it legally to change it first and once it's changed then join.

Don't join and then demand they change their policies for you.

The military isn't about "you".

I believe some how, some way - a same sex spouse should be able to recieve bennies.

I wish same sex military cpls luck in finding or crafting legislation to make that happen.

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No one is forced to join-but who are you to determine that anyone is joining for the benefits? The point is equality, not benefits-not money. Why do you seem to reduce gay marriage and gays in the military to money?

Once that bullet comes at you or that IED goes off, you are forced to face death-and all blood runs the same red and all are sacrificing exactly the same
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You are betraying a simple bigotry,

Until DADT is abolished gays can't openly serve in the military, if they aren't open about their relationships their partners cannot receive benefits. It's only a chicken and egg problem when your mind is blocked by intransigent homophobia.
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