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Old 01-21-2009, 04:27 PM   #46
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What a load of fucking crap i have ever read.
Let's try and keep it civil in here gang.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:35 PM   #47
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oh well, its the end of an ERROR.

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Old 01-21-2009, 04:53 PM   #48
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Bush did keep the country safe after 9/11. I'll give him that.
The man who was on watch when America suffered her greatest defeat, you want to credit for not allowing it to happen a 2nd time?

This is just a well-orchestrated marketing strategy by the administration and it's right-wing water-carriers to give Bush something to hang his hat on.

The reality is that America has been hit twice on its own soil. Once in '93 and once in '01. There's not, but if there IS a pattern to Al Qaeda's ability to strike, it would be once every 8 years. It takes years to plan and it's just not that easy...especially with increased airport and border security and heightened public awareness.

You want to give Bush credit for that? Fine, but a monkey would've done that.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:20 PM   #49
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especially with increased airport and border security and heightened public awareness.
Well some people were against this and the Patriot Act made it easier to track terrorists. I guess the people who were against it were dumber than "monkeys" as you say.
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Well some people were against this and the Patriot Act made it easier to track terrorists. I guess the people who were against it were dumber than "monkeys" as you say.


you know that not a single person who was a victim of "extraordinary rendition" was ever found to have any link at all to terrorism. not even one.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:24 PM   #51
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The average, moderate American thinks that Bush fucked up the past eight years.
Bush leaves office with a higher approval rating than Truman did. Certainly, the "average, moderate American" did not think highly of Truman in 1953, but over time, things changed once a serious objective analysis free of political bias started to be done by many people.
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Gerald Ford left office with a relatively high approval rating, but evaluations of his presidency have tumbled over time.

and that's about as relevant as any other example, and are less self-serving.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:20 PM   #53
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so only time will tell how Bush did. Frankly, I thought he did great. I don't think any president could have prevented 9/11. certainly not Al Gore He did a lot that everyone thought was unpopular, and it seems as though those people congregate on interference
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I don't think time is as much a factor these days on legacy as it was with Truman and Ford. With technology and media we have much more access to information, therefore I don't think time plays the factor it once did... Unless new information comes out or something good comes out of one of Bush's left over policies history will not be kind...

This campaign was proof enough, when the Republican canidate was distancing himself from the two term president...
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:39 PM   #55
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Bush leaves office with a higher approval rating than Truman did.
That's because he couldn't even pronounce nuclear.

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Certainly, the "average, moderate American" did not think highly of Truman in 1953, but over time, things changed once a serious objective analysis free of political bias started to be done by many people.
So what long term solutions has Bush put in place to ensure a new golden age? Serious question.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:04 PM   #56
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I don't think time is as much a factor these days on legacy as it was with Truman and Ford. With technology and media we have much more access to information, therefore I don't think time plays the factor it once did... Unless new information comes out or something good comes out of one of Bush's left over policies history will not be kind...

This campaign was proof enough, when the Republican canidate was distancing himself from the two term president...
I find it hard to believe that you can be so short sighted, on the other hand look at JFK and how peoples attitudes can be utterly divorced from reality after decades.
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I find it hard to believe that you can be so short sighted, on the other hand look at JFK and how peoples attitudes can be utterly divorced from reality after decades.
How is what I said "short sighted"? You don't think technology and media is playing a role in changing the way we record history?

You think it's going to take the same amount of time as it has in the past?
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Yes I do, and it is quite arguable that modern technology and media provide less information than they did 30 years ago.

I think that it still takes time for policy decisions to play out, for insiders to reveal a clearer picture of what happened, and for the general attitudes to become removed enough for more objective evaluation.

Bush has been one of the most divisive presidents in US history, and the problems which he dealt with and contributed to aren't monocausal.

For better or worse Bush will probably be far more important than Clinton, and we should see some serious scrutiny of his presidency for a good long while.
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Yes I do, and it is quite arguable that modern technology and media provide less information than they did 30 years ago.

I think that it still takes time for policy decisions to play out, for insiders to reveal a clearer picture of what happened, and for the general attitudes to become removed enough for more objective evaluation.
Well I stated that if some of his policies play out positively or something comes out then things can change, but I do believe that technology and media are changing the role of time in writing history...
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you know that not a single person who was a victim of "extraordinary rendition" was ever found to have any link at all to terrorism. not even one.
Yeah and they let go of a terrorist that went out into the battlefield. I don't think errors that happen in war mean Obama will want to remove the Patriot Act.
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