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Old 11-23-2009, 08:18 PM   #76
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Just because Jesus said it doesn't make it true.

It is worth thinking about it.

Don't you think?
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:24 PM   #77
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Theres a difference in making a statement and having an agenda. I agree that its silly to think that Brokeback Mountain is just a love story. I'd like to think that there was some thought that went into making the leads gay beyond "oh....just because". but to imply an agenda goes a little beyond making a statement
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Second, do any of you have any idea what generated the original short story by Annie Proulx?
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:26 PM   #78
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Are you going to tell me or are you going to keep quoting yourself?
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:33 PM   #79
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:34 PM   #80
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She said that she was in a bar in Wyoming and noticed an older man very discreetly checking out the young men in the bar, not the young women. So she decided to write a story about what might have happened in that man's past.

I read that in an interview in the paper when the movie first came out. This Wiki article has a little more information, but not what I just said. Brokeback Mountain (short story) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the "agenda" to that movie is the art of storytelling, that's all.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:35 PM   #81
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It is worth thinking about it.

Don't you think?
Not after realising it's a load of bollocks.


You can think it if you'd like though.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:39 PM   #82
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So the "agenda" to that movie is the art of storytelling, that's all.
Thats kind of what I'm saying. but would you really refer to that as an 'agenda'? An agenda implies something much more ominous. As if shes trying to influence the young farm hands of the world.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:47 PM   #83
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I put "agenda" in quotes because I found the whole discussion of the movie and its apparent agenda really dumb.
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Talk of agendas (in scare quotes as they probably should be) or 'messages' when it comes to art is a terrible thing, I believe. Tragically, it's not just some audiences but some artists who seem to approach their work in this way.

Story is a force of nature. It may come to carry great resonance for many people, but no writer, artist, musician or filmmaker should ever approach their work with 'I'm going to send the right message/treat a certain issue in a certain way'. That way lies bad art, and there's plenty of it around because a lot of people seem to think that art's role is to inculate society with messages of varying worthiness. As though we're all just receivers. Blank.

That is no comment on Brokeback Mountain, which I have neither read or seen (although I quite like Annie Proulx). But it is most definitely a comment on the art and artist which prompted this thread.
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Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
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Did he?


Jesus would have used magic to change the Bible if he had been misquoted.

the Bible is inerrant. because of magic. if the Bible we wrong then it wouldn't be the Bible, see?
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I was under the impression that he did, why else would anybody be a Christian?
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I put "agenda" in quotes because I found the whole discussion of the movie and its apparent agenda really dumb.
oh, okay. I'm borderline retarded then, because I thought we were in opposition. good times!
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I was under the impression that he did, why else would anybody be a Christian?
Christmas trees and Easter bunnies, duh!
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