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THE GREAT THANKSGIVING CIVIL LIBERTIES RAID
Nice timing. While you were giving thanks, the Senate was
preparing to baste you. Gearing up to define you as a TURKEY!
A new bill will allow the US Gov to redefine at will who is an enemy
and thus authorize the US Military to detain - you - indefinitely!
Say hello to S.1867. Say goodbye to Liberty.
Indefinite Detention is Not Just For Al-Qaeda. Who's covered?
Whomever the US Secretary of Defense decides is an enemy:
Nice timing. While you were giving thanks, the Senate was
preparing to baste you. Gearing up to define you as a TURKEY!
A new bill will allow the US Gov to redefine at will who is an enemy
and thus authorize the US Military to detain - you - indefinitely!
Say hello to S.1867. Say goodbye to Liberty.
[img=left]http://www.aclu.org/files/imagecache/blog_image/blog_images/ndaa.jpg[/img]Senators Demand the Military Lock Up of
American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They
Define as Being Right Outside Your Window
The Senate is voting on a bill that goes to the
very heart of who we are as Americans.
A bill that will direct American military resources
not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war
zone, but at American citizens and other civilians
far from any battlefield — even people in the
United States itself.
http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens
Senate Votes To Let Military
Detain Americans Indefinitely
Senate Votes To Let Military Detain Americans Indefinitely, White House Threatens Veto
Indefinite Detention is Not Just For Al-Qaeda. Who's covered?
Whomever the US Secretary of Defense decides is an enemy:
(e) Requirement for Briefings of Congress.—The Secretary of Defense
shall regularly brief Congress regarding the application of the authority
described in this section, including the organizations, entities, and
individuals considered to be "covered persons" for purposes of
subsection (b)(2).
Read the Military Detention Bill - Blog - OpenCongress
Addressing Levin and McCain's Apologists
An ugly push is being made by those who would see our country pick and
choose who is affected by the detention provisions in S1867. They point to
this in particular:
From section 1032 which specifically addresses the impositions of 1031:
(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in
military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the
United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in
military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident
alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the
United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the
United States.
This is not a prohibition on citizen detention.
Though it is not a "requirement," it is also not prohibited.
It simply means that the detention of citizens and their
classification is left to the Executive Branch.
The Hand That Feeds You: Addressing Levin and McCain's Apologists
Sen. Paul: “My question would be under the provisions would it be possible
that an American citizen then could be declared an enemy combatant and
sent to Guantanamo Bay and detained indefinitely.”
Sen. McCain: “I think that as long as that individual, no matter who they
are, if they pose a threat to the security of the United States of America,
should not be allowed to continue that threat.”
There has been some confusion on the Internet as to whether the National
Defense Authorization Act really applies to U.S. citizens. But Sen. McCain’s
answer should clarify that once and for all.
The confusion stems from Section 1032, which deals with the military
detention of the people the Armed Forces captures “in the course of
hostilities.” Part of Section 1032 states:
“The requirement to detain a person in military custody under
this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”
Christopher Anders, senior legislative counsel of the ACLU,
explains the problem.
“The exclusion on Section 1032 only applies to 1032. It doesn’t apply to
1031,” he says. “And that only makes it worse, because any judge is
going to say, ‘Of course, members of Congress meant for American
citizens to be detained because if they didn’t, they would have put in the
exception they put in one section later.’ ”
Anders also noted that Sen. Lindsey Graham, a backer of the bill, has
said multiple times on the Senate floor, including on Tuesday, that
American citizens should be put into military detention without a lawyer.
McCain says American Citizens Can Be Sent to Guantanamo | The Progressive
Udall, ACLU attempted sleight of hand
with opposition to military bill
Udall, ACLU attempted sleight of hand with opposition to military bill | Greeley Gazette
S.1867 allows Military to Intern Americans without Charges
Forum Post: S.1867 allows Military to Intern Americans without Charges | OccupyWallSt.org
Stop Indefinite Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Due Process
U.S. Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) who voted against the bill in the House,
says the act would indeed “permit the federal government to indefinitely
detain American citizens on American soil, without charge or trial, at the
discretion of the President.”
He notes that the language “does not preclude U.S. citizens from being
detained indefinitely, without charge or trial, it simply makes such
detention discretionary,” therefore it is misleading and outrageous.
Stop Indefinite Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Due Process | The Moral Liberal