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Old 11-29-2011, 08:16 AM   #31
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it's ok

that's sweet of you to worry about the girl i guess! i didn't think of it that way... i guess as a woman, i would be EXTREMELY vocal about rejecting any unwelcome attention lol!! so i would assume that others would be too...

it's a tricky one - definitely if there is an attack going on, intervention is essential i would think... friends of mine and even family members have ended up in fights protecting others, even people they didn't know, and in the situations i am aware of, their intervention was very much appreciated by the victim... but i think those situations were incredibly clear-cut and obvious and the women involved were very upset and wanting help...

i know here in France there is a law against failing to assist someone in danger, so there is a civil responsibility to help in such situations...
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:36 AM   #32
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I can live with feeling a bit foolish and naive at not having realized that a situation was essentially innocuous--something that would have been obvious to most everyone else apparently. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself had it been a situation where someone needed help and I did nothing. So I'm glad it turned out to be the former rather than the latter.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:49 AM   #33
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I've seen Sean rocking out at a concert, he's no perv and he knows how to have a good time!
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:23 AM   #34
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but he was violently raping her!
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Was there anal or oral penetration?
Not appropriate.
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:38 PM   #35
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It wasn't an obvious attack of course. I just wasn't sure where the line was between "I wouldn't have let that happen if I was sober, but hey, that's why I was drunk" and "I was so drunk I didn't realize what was happening"

When I was in college a close friend was raped by one of our high school classmates (no charges pressed or anything, and the impression he seemed to have is that they "hooked up"). Both were intoxicated at the time. So I've been perhaps a little hypersensitive on this issue.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:27 PM   #36
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Not funny
fixed. And I don't mean I was offended, I just mean it was neither clever nor humorous .
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:22 PM   #37
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You should report it to the head coach and never follow up again.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:42 PM   #38
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Not appropriate.
I think it does pertain. As far as a I know, rape involves penetration or entering anothers body. Whereas sexual assault is a is more of a grope or unwanted touching.

Please be specific before we continue this conversation. The word rape is sorta loaded and also implies force. My guess that in a concert situation a sexual assault would be more probable.
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I think the point might have been that Sean never suggested (and no one else did) that anyone was violently raping anyone. But you brought that up, for whatever reasons. It's not about the semantics of it, because no one was suggesting that. I don't think any sort of violence or penetration is required in order to make an individual uncomfortable with a situation. You are making one giant leap to that anti male all men are rapists thing.
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I think that giant leaps are what scares me when it comes to 'rape'.
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I think that giant leaps are what scares me when it comes to 'rape'.


no one is doing that in this thread other than you.

Sean clearly wondered about a "sexual assault." the rest of the posts have been about what is and isn't appropriate PDA and the role of alcohol, as well as what a great guy Sean is for even being concerned about this.
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I think it does pertain. As far as a I know, rape involves penetration or entering anothers body. Whereas sexual assault is a is more of a grope or unwanted touching.

Please be specific before we continue this conversation. The word rape is sorta loaded and also implies force. My guess that in a concert situation a sexual assault would be more probable.
Are you serious? What is wrong with you. You make unfunny offensive posts aimed in the direction of a guy who was just trying to be a good person, and you think that anything you said should be taken seriously and is at all comparable to discussion that Yolland was making in another thread? Get over yourself. You're not funny, and trivializing rape isn't either.
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I didn't realize maycocksean was male and yes that does change the connotation of the posts. I apologize to him. And I don't think that rape, as it is discussed in internet forums, should be taken that seriously. The internet is not the problem venue to discuss something such as this.

Sometimes I think that word is used for dramatic impact is very loaded and offensive. That is all I am saying.
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Probably says more about your oversensitivity than anything else.

And what makes you think people can't have meaningful conversations on the internet?
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I find it interesting that candedge's assessment of my take on the situation would change so much based on my gender.

Had I been a woman I would have deserved the ribbing, but as a man I deserve an apology? I think that's worth unpacking.

I found it funny that someone thought I was a woman, though I suppose there's no reason why my gender should be obvious from my posts.

Some of the most meaningful conversations I've ever had on the topics of religion and politics, happened on the internet right here in this very forum. Some have even changed my life!
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