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Old 07-21-2009, 09:11 PM   #91
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I find this bit interesting, saw it on the band "JAMES" website awhile back, its when they played Dublin a few years back. They were thinking about a show they did years ago in Dublin late 80's/early 90's...Good ole' Adam always loved the Champagne!
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17th April 2007
Lovely old theatre, played here before a long time ago. Adam Clayton got rat-arsed on our champagne and had to be helped into a taxi and taken home.
Hmmmm, interesting. I thought he had quitted drinking, I must have made that up in my mind. I guess he drinks every now and then.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:56 PM   #92
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Eating Disorders and Genetics - Genetic Component to Eating Disorders

This is a tangent from the alcoholism topic, so I'm not inclined to bother with hunting down more properly scientific sources for those points, but there is quite a growing body of research in this area, and it's not at all controversial to suggest that genetic predispositions may play an important role in many eating disorder patients. Doesn't mean that any resulting neurochemical abnormalities are necessarily all that similar in nature, and anorexia and bulimia at least do seem 'culturally dependent' in the sense that growing up surrounded by idealized images of certain body types seems crucial somehow to the emergence of *those particular forms* of abnormal eating behavior as a medical phenomenon. But it simply isn't true that eating disorders don't run in families.

This is interesting, I haven't seen some of this. Most of what I've read states that you are often predisposed due to growing up around parents with unhealthy relationships with food, I hadn't seen any family studies where they didn't grow up around it yet still developed eating disorders... interesting.

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Is there really any such thing as an alcoholic (non-sober) who doesn't have "mental issues"?
This is a very interesting question, one that has been the center of many studies. It's kind of like the chicken and egg question, which came first? I've seen some alcoholics that never seemed to have any of the outward signs of mental issues, in fact they were very good at hiding their alcoholism and even those closest to them never even knew. I've also seen those that were seemingly "normal" but started showing the outward signs of mental issues when they were drinking because it's a depressant and once they quit never showed an outward sign of a mental issue ever again. So I don't know.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:57 PM   #93
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Hmmmm, interesting. I thought he had quitted drinking, I must have made that up in my mind. I guess he drinks every now and then.
They were talking about a gig that took place in the late 80's early 90's.
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wow, this got moved to FYM... really?
you did read past the first five posts, right?
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you did read past the first five posts, right?
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wow, this got moved to FYM... really?
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Adam got moved to FYM because he's Scottish
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Adam got moved to FYM because he's Scottish
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Maybe Adam partied too much with Metallica, they were on a tour as well and running on alcohol.
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Not to nitpick, but no one is ever a former alcoholic. It's a lifetime disease. Even if your 60 years sober, you're still a recovering alcoholic.
I agree because it's an addiction/disease just like eating disorders (I'm a recovering anorexic) where you're in recovery from it for the rest of your life.
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is that depressing though? To say 'oh im alawyas recovering from it, i've not beaten it and free from it for life?' like if you're an alcoholic you can NEVER have another drink, because you'll knock the bottle from the waiter and scull the whole thing after tasting a drop?

I'd like to think that after you've gone through all the stages and have been dry for a while you could start have one glass of something here and there, back to a normality of life rather then forever denying yourself something. It just seems so depressing that way.
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