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Old 06-24-2009, 10:53 PM   #16
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I think Islam requires specific times of the day for the 5 prayers.

I know that private corporations don't hold group prayer times at work, 5 times a day. But muslims are allowed to pray in their office or cube, or in a special designated place. (read prison cell)

What if there are no other muslims at your place of work? You're essentially relegated to praying alone anyway. I don't get it.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:13 PM   #17
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I think Islam requires specific times of the day for the 5 prayers.

I know that private corporations don't hold group prayer times at work, 5 times a day. But muslims are allowed to pray in their office or cube, or in a special designated place. (read prison cell)

What if there are no other muslims at your place of work? You're essentially relegated to praying alone anyway. I don't get it.
Now I do agree if these group times don't coincide with their praying times and they are asking for special times then they shouldn't be given special privledges, but from the article it's hard to tell if this is the case...
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:17 PM   #18
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And why can't they use that time to pray? Their religion requires group pray, why deny them that but group time for everything else? You don't seem to be following.

I'm following.
I like to think of it as part of their punishment. That would be a good enough reason.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:27 PM   #19
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I'm following.
I like to think of it as part of their punishment. That would be a good enough reason.
So working out, watching TV, or playing cards should or should not be eliminated as part of their punishment?
At first you seemed to be ok with eliminating everything and they should be in their cells 24/7 but then you went back to saying "why can't they just pray in their cells"? So I'm confused as to where you draw the line?
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You win.
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It's not a matter of winning or losing, I was just curious...
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you lose

Practicing religion is a freedom.

Prison is a place where (some or even most) freedoms are restricted.

I don't think any group should be able to sue and win the right to meet in groups.

Inmates have lost their rights of association and/or assembly.
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Then be consistent, don't allow Christians to assemble either, yet they do.
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Then be consistent, don't allow Christians to assemble either, yet they do.
yeah, but it's easier to pray as a Christian than a muslim
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My first reaction was "tough shit" but as I'm reading this it seems like typical warden/CO douchebaggery more than anything else. What, they can play cards and shoot the shit, but if somebody starts praying it's back to the cells?

It just sounds like they're being restricted from prayer on a whim, so I think I'm with the ACLU on this one.
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