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Old 03-12-2011, 12:48 PM   #91
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Sounds unreal, but I'm glad you're well, and best wishes for everyone in the affected areas.

This is the worst thing you'll see all month. How goddamn heartless and stupid can people be?
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:08 PM   #92
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The core of a nuclear reactor overheating is seriously scary stuff - I mean science fiction scary. Aside from the terrible long-term contamination of the surrounding region, back in the 50s nuclear physicists hypothesized that an overheated reaction could - theoretically - melt right through the earth's crust and emerge out the other side. I think this theory has now been safely debunked, but the fact they were actually talking about it happening shows just what scary technology it is.
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I read that ^, I do this v


because, yep, it scares the bejeezus out of me too
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This is the worst thing you'll see all month. How goddamn heartless and stupid can people be?wow
Why people are a such an idiot? This a time for the world to help Japan to overcome this horrible situation, not to remember something that happened a long, long time ago. They remember Pearl Harbor but do not remember the two atomic bombs that the USA threw in Japan. Also Pearl Harbor was the USA goverment's EXCUSE to enter in the Second World War.I apologise for derailing the thread's topic a bit,that thing drove me mad
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The core of a nuclear reactor overheating is seriously scary stuff - I mean science fiction scary. Aside from the terrible long-term contamination of the surrounding region, back in the 50s nuclear physicists hypothesized that an overheated reaction could - theoretically - melt right through the earth's crust and emerge out the other side. I think this theory has now been safely debunked, but the fact they were actually talking about it happening shows just what scary technology it is.
Hooray nuclear hysteria!

"This totally garbage idea was debunked, but it still proves...uh...that people were irrationally afraid?"
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:31 PM   #96
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My friend in the Marines was recently deployed to Okinawa. He said yesterday they had to evacute somewhere to higher ground and weren't allowed to leave. I haven't heard from him since yesterday but I read today that the Marines are now being mobilized to help out on the mainland.
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I am in Japan now and has been for two weeks.

The country has been at a virtual standstill (at least here in the east) until a couple of hours ago, when the trains started running again.

I was stuck in a small town for 18 hours and had to sleep in a high school gymnasium, with small bits of rubble dripping from the ceiling throughout the night...
Quite an experience.
Back in Tokyo now, and many shops are shut, and not as many people are out on the streets as usual.

Everyone is a bit shaken, no pun intended.
All eyes are on the nuclear plant in Fukushima now, apparently it has started leaking small amounts of radioactivity.

I'll post some updates later.
I hope you are safe !!! just saw the photo on flickr....
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The core of a nuclear reactor overheating is seriously scary stuff - I mean science fiction scary. Aside from the terrible long-term contamination of the surrounding region, back in the 50s nuclear physicists hypothesized that an overheated reaction could - theoretically - melt right through the earth's crust and emerge out the other side. I think this theory has now been safely debunked, but the fact they were actually talking about it happening shows just what scary technology it is.
"The China Syndrome" is still somewhat real: A nuclear reactor meltdown burns down into the ground hitting an aquifer and then turns the water into an instant radioactive steam geyser that puts the nuclear material into the air.

Not high on my list of worries, but I'm not a fan of nuclear power either.
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I know a family in Sendai. We've emailed them, but have heard nothing yet.
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It's probably a pathetically inane sentiment, but this disaster has definitely heightened my sense of the awful power of rushing water. I'd seen many, many photos of the aftermath of tsunamis, levee breaks, etc. before, but to see that live footage of a towering wall of water smashing inland and tossing aside mansions, trains and huge ships as if they were toothpicks, that was just horrifying.

Prayers to everyone in the affected areas.
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:45 PM   #101
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Japan battled to contain a radiation leak at an earthquake-crippled nuclear plant on Sunday, but faced a fresh threat with the failure of the cooling system in a second reactor. Operator TEPCO said it was preparing to release some steam to relieve pressure in the No.3 reactor at the plant 240 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo--which would release a small amount of radiation--following an explosion and leak on Saturday in the facility's No. 1 reactor.

The government insisted radiation levels were low following Saturday's explosion, saying the blast had not affected the reactor core container, and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said it had been told by Japan that levels "have been observed to lessen in recent hours". But Japan's nuclear safety agency said the number of people exposed to radiation from the Fukushima Daiichi plant could reach 160. Workers in protective clothing were scanning people arriving at evacuation centres for radioactive exposure. Around 140,000 people had been evacuated from areas near the plant and another nuclear facility nearby, while authorities prepared to distribute iodine to people in the vicinity to protect them from radioactive exposure...Before news of the problem with reactor No. 3, the nuclear safety agency said the plant accident was less serious than both the Three Mile Island accident in 1979 and the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster. An official at the agency said it has rated the incident a 4 according to the International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale (INES). Three Mile Island was rated 5 while Chernobyl was rated 7 on the 1 to 7 scale, the official said.

As strong aftershocks continued to shake Japan's main island the desperate search for survivors from Friday's massive earthquake and tsunami continued, and the death toll was expected to rise. Thousands spent another freezing night huddled over heaters in emergency shelters along the northeastern coast, a scene of devastation after the 8.9 magnitude quake sent a 10-metre (33-foot) wave surging through towns and cities. Kyodo news agency said the number of dead or unaccounted for as a result of the quake and tsunami was expected to exceed 1800. It also reported there had been no contact with around 10,000 people in one small town, more than half its population...[Kyodo] said about 300,000 people were evacuated nationwide, many seeking refuge in shelters, wrapped in blankets, some clutching each other sobbing...5.5 million people were without power, while 3400 buildings had either been destroyed or damaged. Four trains were unaccounted for after the tsunami.
From my very, very limited understanding, the earlier explosion had nothing to do with a "meltdown," but was "just" a hydrogen explosion generated when coolant water they were pumping in came into contact with the extremely overheated reactor core container.

ETA (several articles later...) -- OK, make that the extremely overheated fuel rod containers, not the surrounding core container itself.
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see, for me, the words "radiation leak" are about as comforting as the word "meltdown".


thank you, new zealand stance on nuclear energy.
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^ Right, it's a question of the better of two grim options. Hopefully lowering the temps by allowing a hydrogen steam explosion now will prevent the uranium fuel pellets from melting. A reactor core container can survive a hydrogen explosion, but not melting uranium, which would eat right through it, creating a much larger explosion (and disseminating a hell of a lot more radioactivity).
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It's probably a pathetically inane sentiment, but this disaster has definitely heightened my sense of the awful power of rushing water. I'd seen many, many photos of the aftermath of tsunamis, levee breaks, etc. before, but to see that live footage of a towering wall of water smashing inland and tossing aside mansions, trains and huge ships as if they were toothpicks, that was just horrifying.

Prayers to everyone in the affected areas.
It is incredible to think that the tsunami wave probably travels around 500 mph in the ocean, around the same speed as a jet airliner. Of course it slows considerably on land, but still it is amazing to consider.
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This is so completely horrifying.
It's so cold and all these people unable go into homes or buildings, water and fires all over the place and people already getting sick from radiation leaking from the plant.
I can't help but cry.
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