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Old 05-01-2010, 07:48 AM   #1
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6th May Election : or, something that's not about the United States

After browsing over the threads here, I'm not sure if anyone is actually aware, but there are countries outside of the United States. One of these happens to be the United Kingdom, and there's a general election on the 6th May.

I'll be voting on Thursday, but I was wondering to the one or two of you who might be following this, if you've decided who you'll be voting for?

I'm pretty sure I've made up my mind, already. But then again, maybe not.

Let's hear it. Who are you voting for? And to the precious few others who might not be British and are following this campaign from your homeland, who would you like to see win?
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:49 PM   #2
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Where's the United Kingdom?
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It is certainly interesting. I've never seen a country so excited Australia is so so so laid back when it comes to politics.
I'm voting for Lib Dems just to see if they can shake shit up. However my biggest fear is David smug bastard Cameron gets in power, as bad shit will go down. I do think Gordo is just not a 'people's PM' and they are slating him for it, but to think Cameron is any better makes me chuck. Clegg is the best of the three but I doubt Lib Dems have enough power to pip at the post.
Will be interesting to see thats for sure!
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After browsing over the threads here, I'm not sure if anyone is actually aware, but there are countries outside of the United States. One of these happens to be the United Kingdom, and there's a general election on the 6th May.

I'll be voting on Thursday, but I was wondering to the one or two of you who might be following this, if you've decided who you'll be voting for?

I'm pretty sure I've made up my mind, already. But then again, maybe not.

Let's hear it. Who are you voting for? And to the precious few others who might not be British and are following this campaign from your homeland, who would you like to see win?
There have been plenty of non-US related threads on here. The reality is they tend, by and large, not to gain traction.

I am not British but I do generally follow UK elections. I must say I am taking a lot less interest in this one than any election I can remember.

In brief, I see Cameron as a liberal conservative in the Blair mould. He has not been tested and I am not precisely sure what he is supposed to stand for. Hypothetically, I would vote for a more traditional conservative if there happened to be one standing in whatever hypothetical constituency I was voting in (and a traditional conservative by UK standards is still very moderate by US standards). I would consider the Lib Dems also.

And I can't help noticing you didn't tell us who you are voting for...
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Old 05-02-2010, 05:49 AM   #5
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I live in London, and I've been finding it fascinating. It looks like Cameron might squeak it in, and I think that would be/will be a disaster. I'm not voting, but if I were, I live in an area (Islington) that is knife-edge close between Labour and Lib Dem, and given that I'm not sure where I would actually land if I were voting. I agree with the Lib Dems a lot, but I think Labour have done a very good job overall, frontmen issues aside. I think this country would have to be crazy to hand it all over to Cameron/Osborne.
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I think Labour have done a very good job overall, frontmen issues aside. I think this country would have to be crazy to hand it all over to Cameron/Osborne.
Agreed I have already voted, as I'm at uni right now and wanted to vote in my local constituency at home (Richmond). I can't imagine the damage Cameron will do if the conservatives win, but, sadly, I think that is the way this election will go. Brown is not a good 'front man' and lacks the charisma we see in both Clegg and Cameron and so has really suffered in these televised debates, which I think have been fantastic, they've really got a lot of people interested and informed. I'm in Cornwall atm and it's really Lib Dem, which is no great surprise really - so they seem to have a lot of support here, and in the opinion polls too. It's a pretty exciting time in british politics right now
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i've been loosely following, but since i really don't know the issues, i can't offer an informed opinion on the topic. it does seem very interesting, and Brown does seem like he's self-destructing.

i have no idea how i'd vote were i in the UK.
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I agree with the Lib Dems a lot, but I think Labour have done a very good job overall, frontmen issues aside.
What good have they done, seriously?
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What good have they done, seriously?
I personally think that taking the recession and other factors into account, Labour has coped with it all far better that the Tories or the Lib Dems would have been able to - Cameron's plans to take money out of the economy really risk pushing us back into a recession and Clegg spends too much time distancing himself from both Cameron and Brown, I don't see how many of their policies are even feasible, with their glorious little tagline "We can change this only with radical action." –Since when have the Lib Dems ever been radical?

I think Labour have done a lot of good, introduction and raise of minimum wage, overall crime figures cut & record police numbers, introduction of the child tax credit, many more doctors and nurses working for the nhs, 30,000+ more teachers etc etc. I mean ofc there have been some glaring errors, but in hindsight, given the choice I would have voted Labour at the last election and it's just a shame its come to picking the lesser of the three evils, so to speak.
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I personally think that taking the recession and other factors into account, Labour has coped with it all far better that the Tories or the Lib Dems would have been able to - Cameron's plans to take money out of the economy really risk pushing us back into a recession and Clegg spends too much time distancing himself from both Cameron and Brown, I don't see how many of their policies are even feasible, with their glorious little tagline "We can change this only with radical action." –Since when have the Lib Dems ever been radical?
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with your comments about the Lib Dems (the old 'neither one thing nor the other but somewhere in between' gibe from Spitting Image rings true) - but they are the only mainstream party that was against the Iraq war from day one. I will always respect them for this. I also thought Vince Cable was on-the-ball with regard to his comments and reactions to the bank bailout and related issues.

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I think Labour have done a lot of good, introduction and raise of minimum wage, overall crime figures cut & record police numbers, introduction of the child tax credit, many more doctors and nurses working for the nhs, 30,000+ more teachers etc etc. I mean ofc there have been some glaring errors, but in hindsight, given the choice I would have voted Labour at the last election and it's just a shame its come to picking the lesser of the three evils, so to speak.

And all paid for by the taxpayer!

New Labour strike me as having attained the worst balance possible between economic neo-liberalism in some sections of the economy (banking) and absurd and pointless over-regulation in others.

So, in other words, lots more government expenditure and a clientele state. A borderline police state, frankly. This is not deranged conspiracy theory but the opinion of the government's own information commissioner:

BBC NEWS | UK | Britain is 'surveillance society'

Ultimately, who pays for all of this enhancement of government powers and headcount?

Well, in the words of Margaret Thatcher, it's your money.

Finally, New Labour's fulsome support for the Iraq misadventure is good enough reason in and of itself, in my opinion, not to vote for them - although, granted, the Tories supported them on this.
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I hope the reason Zoomerang96 is being coy on voting intentions isn't the BNP. Myself, I have a prediction: Labor by a hair, Brown resigns in return for an ineffectual coalition of some kind.

Or, Conservatives by a hair. Cameron, by the way, for anyone unsure, is running on 'change'. A vote for the conservatives is a vote for 'change'.
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After browsing over the threads here, I'm not sure if anyone is actually aware, but there are countries outside of the United States. One of these happens to be the United Kingdom, and there's a general election on the 6th May.

I'll be voting on Thursday, but I was wondering to the one or two of you who might be following this, if you've decided who you'll be voting for?

I'm pretty sure I've made up my mind, already. But then again, maybe not.

Let's hear it. Who are you voting for? And to the precious few others who might not be British and are following this campaign from your homeland, who would you like to see win?
oh, come on Z96 dude...
....you've got enough posts in Interland to know other countries and World issues are ALSO discussed here.

I haven't been following it closely b/c among other things a close relative gone through a cancer thing (they're fine now), and having difficulty getting my new apt together.

I did hear about the "gaffe" PM Brown made after a voter had talked to him about was it immigration sissies, just a few days ago.

ANd yes I know about how some people thought Tony Blair was CLintonesque in the triangulation between farther left and farther right politicians in those years et al.

Some of us Americans DO our best keep up with the "rest of the world".
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Z96 will most likely vote Tories.
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what's a united kingdom? we don't have a king. seriously though, i've only been following it loosely as well due to tons of circumstances. if i were voting though, only going by the limited knowledge i have, i'd vote for nick clegg.
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