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Old 11-12-2012, 07:54 PM   #16
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And the solution to that urban divide is to gerrymander the shit out of your state to allow the Republicans to remain competitive.

I live in the Philadelphia suburbs and it took me like two hours to figure out what district I am in.

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Old 11-12-2012, 08:28 PM   #17
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The rural/urban divide is what many countries have in common.

That's where red/blue comes from, it's why Chicago speaks for Illinois, and why the swing states tend to have a balance of rural/urban.
Yep. It's a big part of the reason why Obama won Iowa, but King won my district. The eastern half of Iowa is heavily Democratic and has a lot of the big cities, and Obama won that part of the state handily.

Meanwhile, my district envelopes a lot of the center and western part of the state, and they lean very conservative. So King was obviously going to do well there.

My county apparently went for Obama pretty strongly, according to the Des Moines Register's breakdown of Iowa's voting patterns last week.

On a totally unrelated topic, thoughts on this, anyone?:

Secession petitions filed in 20 states | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

As noted, their fight is pretty futile (which makes me wonder why they even bother to begin with), but, still...*Sighs*.

Also, it's just SO reassuring to know someone who says the sorts of things shared in the end quote is in such a notable position. Really. How comforting.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:15 PM   #18
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I was tempted to sign the Texas one with the caveat that we keep Austin.
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If you were to annex New York City from the rest of New York Sate, it would go red almost every year.


Perhaps its time we just called it a day and broke this bitch up.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:57 PM   #20
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I was tempted to sign the Texas one with the caveat that we keep Austin.
No complaints here!
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:31 PM   #21
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If you were to annex New York City from the rest of New York Sate, it would go red almost every year.


Perhaps its time we just called it a day and broke this bitch up.
As someone who lived upstate for two years in junior high, I can assure you those in the state and not the city would gladly welcome this.
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As someone who lived upstate for two years in junior high, I can assure you those in the state and not the city would gladly welcome this.

They'd start to miss all that tax revenue they enjoy.
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If they did do it, the MTA would finally not be broke.
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For those of you who still refuse to believe that this whole Petraeus thing is some grand left wing conspiracy, i present to you exhibit A...



boom goes the dynamite.
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Word on the street is that Bill Clinton has tapped Broadwell to be his biographer.
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Word on the street is that Bill Clinton has tapped Broadwell

....... oh, too easy.

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This would be hysterical if it weren't so scary:

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Planners, organizers, strategists and doers are working quietly behind the scenes, developing a sound political, economic and social blueprint to make this emerging idea a solid reality, with State Governors, Senators and Congressmen being canvassed and lobbied to support this Second Secession, the first was in 1860 which precipitated the American Civil War. Already Secession yard and country signs are popping up all over the Lone Star State Texas, as the Revolutionary Movement for Breakaway gathers momentum and pace. The imminent fear that a second term of the Obama Regime will finish America as we know it is palpable in Tea Party hearts and minds, with grotesque images and nightmares of Sharia Law, Fema Camps, Marxism and RIFD Chips being visited upon American citizens. If the Red States were to secede, Obama would be left with widely separated, bankrupt Blue States and in the event of a 2nd Civil War, Obama would lose, as the Red States control most of US energy sources, pipelines, the Mississippi River, food, nuclear arsenal.
http://conservativepapers.com/news/2...ederacy-rises/

The fact that so many Americans think this way is disturbing. It also makes it clear that the Civil War never ended.
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Even the individual states are petitioning for secession.

Residents In More Than A Dozen States Petition White House To Secede From United States

This did not happen when Bush was reelected in 2004. Sure, there were many disgruntled liberals, but the Left Coast didn't petition to leave the Union. This is silly and it says a lot about many conservatives in the country.
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There's been a secessionist movement in Vermont for years and years.
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I think the Petraeus scandal should probably be a separate thread , but anyway... Now the commander in Afghanistan (Allen?) is being investigated for inappropriate conduct with Jill Kelley. Great to know that these guys in such positions are spending time on stuff like this. And she was busy too, apparently. The FBI agent that she contacted, he was sending her shirtless photos. Don't know if they had a prior relationship. From what's come out about these e-mails they were "threatening" in the standard jealous woman way, not life threatening. So why the FBI involvement? She's from a wealthy, connected family. So maybe that's one reason. Or she already knew the guy and he was trying to impress her.

The shirtless FBI agent was removed from the case, then he went to the Congressman who went to Eric Cantor.
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