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Old 08-28-2012, 11:04 PM   #91
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I also directly quoted "assault on marriage" and made no comment whatsoever relating to gay marriage.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:07 PM   #92
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At this point I have to ask: Do some of you even give a rat's ass about the truth? Pearl? Anitram? Moonlit? Deep?
Oh, come on. Enough with the sanctimony, please. None of these posters have been any less dedicated to "the truth" than you have.

That said, your point about Santorums "assault on the family" comment being taken out of context IS valid.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:15 PM   #93
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At this point I have to ask: Do some of you even give a rat's ass about the truth? Pearl? Anitram? Moonlit? Deep?
Given Santorum's track record on SSM, it was only natural to think he was speaking against the issue.

And please don't say I don't "give a rat's ass" about the deterioration of families in America. That was really rude and aggressive to use such words.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:21 PM   #94
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I heard some of John Kasich's speech on NPR on the drive home this evening and it was actually pretty good. I always appreciate it when they avoid all the apocalyptic "OMG we have to take back our country" stuff. His speech was very much about the economy.

I had to wonder if that glowing report about Ohio's progress in the last year and a half is all true.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:31 PM   #95
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aren't there a lot of auto plants in Ohio

didn't the Obama bail out boost them and their related businesses?
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I, unlike most of you, actually listened to the Santorum speech and didn't hear one mention of anything related to gay marriage. Here's the line:



He went on to talk about "family; the first rung to success" being missing or broken for so many children.

At this point I have to ask: Do some of you even give a rat's ass about the truth? Pearl? Anitram? Moonlit? Deep?
1, yes, we do, thanks.
2, yes, he's right that many families are broken, but I would disagree with his reasoning as to why.
3, I apologize for miscontruing things, but "assault on marriage and the family" still sounds weird. He's still concerned about marriage disappearing, as he noted in that speech, he's just decided to pick a different reason as to why this time. And given his anti-gay marriage history, it's kind of hard not to think of that issue right away the moment he starts going on about the "assault on marriage" and whatnot.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:49 PM   #97
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aren't there a lot of auto plants in Ohio

didn't the Obama bail out boost them and their related businesses?
Yes, that's true, I believe.

Listening to him speak, it all sounded so good, but the whole time I was wondering "what's the other side of this story?"
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:07 AM   #98
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I saw the two big speeches. Just some sheer political observations...

I thought Ann Romney was good, if not very good. And sincere and/or believable.
I like her. She's the best advertisement for Mitt Romney available. They should put Mitt back in his box and store him until after November and just send her out there.

And I thought Chris Christie was self-involved...and if I am Mitt Romney, I think it was a massive failure. Christie was supposed to do the one thing Mitt certainly can't do. Sell Mitt Romney. I think Christie spoke for 20 minutes before even mentioning Mitt. He is a great speaker and could have knocked it out the park. Instead it is now left to the two stiffs batting 3rd (Ryan) and 4th (Romney). White bread deluxe. Christie failed, IMO.

Truth is, I bet Mitt actually gives a good speech on Thursday. We shall see.
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agree, Ann Romney did well

and Christie, I don't understand what people see in him, what a blow hard.
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Christie is an...interesting individual, to be sure.

Agreed with everyone on Ann Romney. No issues with her.

Also, found this on Yahoo!. I'll just leave it here:

GOP OKs platform barring abortions, gay marriage - Yahoo! News
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Lucky for her they now let black people in.
Apparently, brainwashed indoctrinated ignorance still reigns supreme in FYM.

Here's a brief American History lesson:


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Wow, what a piece of revisionist history shit...

The names of the parties have nothing to do with the parties of today, one should have learned that in middle school.

Only on youtube


So I actually went back and watched the end and saw the credits, now it all makes sense. Poor Frantz, he's been proven wrong so many times. As far as MLK being Republican, one only has to read his own autobiography to figure that out. He supported people on both tickets during his lifetime because there were people on both sides supporting the Civil Rights act. His only widely known documented presidential voting was for Kennedy. And he had some VERY choice words for the Republican Convention of 1964; "The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism." He also referred to the Republican convention as "the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right."
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Republican Attendees Threw Nuts At Black CNN Camerawoman, Called Her An 'Animal'

Mia Love better rethink her loyalties. I have to admit I'm surprised the GOP is making her a big deal. It's like they're saying, "we're not racist, here's this black woman who agrees with us!"
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Taking assault on marriage out of the context that Santorum meant it, is that like taking you didn't build it out of context? No matter what the context, "assault on marriage" is that lightning rod/code sort of phrase. Just like you didn't build it, even if that was in the general context of everyone needs/has gotten some help (not necessarily some govt help but HELLO that was the immediate context given to it), roads lead to trucks lead to..blah blah blah. I said at the time that Obama never should have said that, no matter what the context. Gave them plenty of ammunition, apparently to be used through the entire convention. One of the dumbest things he's ever said politically, if not just in general. Telling people that, even if you didn't mean it that way, is an insult. Even if that wasn't the intention, it can be the experienced result.

Ann Romney is a lovely woman, I've always said that. Honestly when she was in MA she hardly ever spoke at all. All I ever knew about her was that she had MS and used horse riding and other things to deal with it. But she has always been very classy and gracious, and I hope she can stay that way through the nasty political process. I only watched a small bit of her speech, honestly I just wasn't in the mood to hear her gush about her husband. Sorry, no offense intended towards her.
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That's despicable. Just two people out of thousands of attendees, but obviously not acceptable at all. I just can't believe anyone would act like that, let alone at a national political convention. You're there representing your party, no?
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