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Old 09-06-2012, 10:08 AM   #331
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How freaking embarrassing. That still is also very unflattering.

Mayor Menino Calls Martin Luther King "Martha" At Democratic National Convention - YouTube
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:11 AM   #332
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too bad he screwed the gays over
It is.

And too bad he screwed over all of us when he repealed Glass-Steegal and the banking industry started to play poker with your money.

He's done some bad things too, deep, but adults are often capable of holding several thoughts in their head at once
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:14 AM   #333
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All politicians have screwed people over. Doesn't justify any of the screwing over, but it's an undeniable fact.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:28 PM   #334
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They weren't booing they were saying Jerruuuoooosalem
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:23 PM   #335
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Is Bill Clinton still speaking? Couldn't make it through the whole thing.

He's thinner than ever.

48 minutes. How long was his infamously long speech? Can't remember.
Actually i think he looked good, i've seen photos of him looking thinner.I wouldn't have really thot of it as long IF the Talkinh Heads on CBS hadn't mentioned how bad his firsrt spoeech was> just before he spoke!

I was thinking this IS long but in the context of how many people are going to be bored by this..... not me per se.
But with the cameras they hopped through the crowd and saw
a hell of a lot excited and intensely listening!

:lo; I for got to mention he's sooo smart along with being a wonk! I guess your could be an ineffective wonk by being not very smart?

But he has the gift of putting complex things in simpler terms

In a sense he had to make a long speech b/c he had to go through all these different policy points with both the human/emotional side b/c cause of his empathy and his life experinces along with the stats to back Obama's actions up and illumiinate what Romney/Ryan will do to us, wehile also being animated in his speaking manner to further engage the audience.

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I really, really feel, without the support of polls or anything of the sort, that this election is essentially all but over for Mitt Romney.

What a stark contrast between the conventions. How clear it is that one party is living in decades past.
BUT ONE CAUTION>> the Voter Suppresion/ go through hoops yo be able to get a "proper" State ID or renew Driver's lisence.

i do has some more hope now bwecause I've heard alot of the "boots on the ground" national & locally directed groups working in the affeted States ie Pensylvania, Virginia, Ohio and a few others.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:29 PM   #336
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Bill Clinton is a rock star. He is the only reason I watched any of the DNC (didn't watch the Republicans at all) For the rest of the speeches I can scan the texts online, but I don't like to miss a Clinton performance no matter how long winded he might be. The Clintons are the only politicians left who still move me.

That being said, I'll be reading the factchecks.
you should YT up Deval Patrick, (?former) Gov Strickland speeches they were fabulous speeches, very strong!
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:39 PM   #337
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And too bad he screwed over all of us when he repealed Glass-Steegal and the banking industry started to play poker with your money.

He's done some bad things too, deep, but adults are often capable of holding several thoughts in their head at once
Did you hear he had sex with someone named Monica, too?

He improvised parts of his speech and it didn't involve talking to an empty chair? My mind = blown.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:50 PM   #338
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It is.

And too bad he screwed over all of us when he repealed Glass-Steegal and the banking industry started to play poker with your money.

He's done some bad things too, deep, but adults are often capable of holding several thoughts in their head at once
indeed!
That's why I can enthusiasticall support Pres Obama for the
good he has done while being troulbed by other parts of his actions. I didn't get really burned like some Liberals/Proressives did with Pres Obama...becuase I knew enough that for me he would compromise perhaps too much in some arenas. This was becuase I thought Pres Clintonn was more progressive than he turned out to be. So I learned my lessons back then. But he did do some great things too! SO I'm lad in all he was President.

Oh yes I cringed when Glass-Steegal was removed! I knew Baaaad Stuff would happen eventually!
DADT.. i didn't quite understand all the ramafications of how bad that would end up being. And of course gay people be able to be yourself in such a heavy situation as serving esp in more combat situations to be able to celebrate if you had/have deep emotional/romantic parterships, and now marriage in some cases to be able to share/celebrate those bonds that also help keep you going in dangerous situations along with Unit Cohesion and comraderie!
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:39 PM   #339
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I'm not sure what I find more amusing: Obama's speech being moved indoors due to "empty seats"
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So .... you're saying it's being moved inside because nobody likes him, and he has a cloud of rain that follows him around, raining only on him? That's a shame.
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So .... you're saying it's being moved inside because nobody likes him, and he has a cloud of rain that follows him around, raining only on him? That's a shame.
Also thunderbolts (ie God) aiming right at him.
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Ha!
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:53 PM   #343
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Fox News analyst Charles Krauthammer claimed Wednesday that there was no way officials moved President Barack Obama's speech indoors due to concerns about the weather, saying Democrats have known what Thursday's weather will be for "months."

"It wasn't the weather, they knew what the weather was going to be months ago. This was clearly a response to the fear of a sea of empty seats, and that's why this is being done," Krauthammer said.
I wonder if he can tell me whether it will rain on my wedding day...
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:56 PM   #344
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Does he mean they could have predicted it would rain knowing where and when they'd be there? If that's the case, then shouldn't the Republicans known about their own reschedulings well? Considering they scheduled their convention in Florida during hurricane season?

Or is he actually implying that the Democrats actually control the weather?
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Weather has a clear liberal bias.
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