Moonlit_Angel
Blue Crack Addict
Oh, lord, soooooo much to comment on here, where do I begin...*Cracks knuckles*. Getting venting/angry commentary out of the way first, then ending on a positive/general note.
First off, the voting out of the Iowa judges really makes me want to cry . However, isn't there still a whole lot of crap the anti-gay crowd would have to go through in order to ultimately defeat the legalization of gay marriage? I'm no expert on how this stuff works, but anyone who has a bit more knowledge about it, enlighten me, I'd be interested to know just what else they have to do. Regardless, I'm certainly going to keep an eye on things related to that issue and fight like hell with all the means I have to stop the anti-gay crowd.
That does lead me to something else I found interesting, though. I was watching Rachel Maddow's show tonight and she was talking about this issue, as well as other ballot measures and such, that were defeated/approved, and I noticed a recurring theme kept coming up about "out of state interests" having a say in that stuff. Out of state interests were what helped push the "anti-activist judges" thing here, and of course, it's been active other times, too. And I'm kinda confused about that, because if we are leaving taking care of the issues up to each individual state, like so many insist it should be, then why exactly are people from other states trying to dictate who the judges for my state are and what they can vote on in regards to that issue (or any issue)? It's like when the Mormon church in Utah put all that money toward Prop 8 in California-you're in Utah, what the hell do you care what happens in California? Just further proof that the "let the states decide" mantra of conservatives is complete BS and confusing as hell.
What makes the decision about the judges all the more ironic is that for all the bitching about these three judges being "activists" (what exactly does that even MEAN?), two of them were appointed by a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, Mr. Branstad, who you guys just re-elected back to office! Make sense to anyone else? Yeah, didn't think so. Enough to make you want to bang your head against the nearest wall while screaming.
Oh, and Steve King is still around. Happy day for Iowa, indeed *Sigh*.
Ditto all of this, though I'd change the "elitist non-American" bit to, "I resent their almost unanimous conclusion that just because I live in 'middle America' naturally this means I'll be swayed by their borderline offensively patronizing small town, folksy, 'family values', rural babblings, and that I'll automatically fear those 'elitist big city people with their smooth-talking ways'."
Pretty much. The Republicans have a very delicate dance to do right now. On the one hand they'll want to try and continue to distance themselves from the crazier antics of the party, but if they don't listen to them, that won't help them among the voters (and I will quite frankly have absolutely NO problem saying, "I told you so" to the people who voted for them when that happens. You should've been paying better attention, guys, sorry. You get what you voted for).
As depressing as much of last night's news was, I can still manage to see a potential silver lining in all of this. Nathan was absolutely right in saying the Republicans are something of a gift for Obama and the Democrats. Aside from the potentially destructive Tea Party/Republican Party merger/battle, having the Republicans there might light a fire under the Democrats and get them motivated to fight harder. If a miracle actually does happen and the Republicans DO learn to work with the Democrats, well, then, hey, fantastic . I'm not betting on that happening, but who knows. Plus, other presidents have had strong oppositions and managed to win re-election, so I'm not too worried about Obama's chances in that department for 2012.
(Personally, I'd love to see Obama go up against the Republicans the next two years the way he went at them at that retreat back in January. That would be awesome)
Really, no kidding, I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet. I was watching most of the election coverage on my local CBS affiliate last night, but I saw clips from CNN-the hell was with that gaggleful of people in their headquarters? Seriously... Also, did anyone hear O'Reilly's bit about advising kids not to watch MSNBC because Democrats might be committing suicide there or things of that sort? Real charming, that. Idiot. Nice song choice from Jeannieco as well. I will never be able to hear that song the same way again, thanks to that sanity rally .
Despite all the wins that I wish hadn't happened, I am thrilled to death to see that O'Donnell, Angle, and Paladino lost their races. That was definitely some bright news. And deep mentioned the Colorado ballot stuff-the personhood amendment, the UFO thing-good to see that Colorado's still as loopy a state as ever . Kinda surprised to see that the marijuana measure lost in California-what's with that state lately, you guys are losing your uber-liberal status! Quite honestly, I wish pot were legal simply because if it was, last night's results would have had a LOT less anger attached to them. Then again, though, I saw a clip tonight talking about all the crazy ballot measures and bizarre comments from various politicians like Angle, the Arizona governor (whom I'm so happy to hear is still going to be governor, that's just great), or Paladino, Boehner supporting the Nazi dress guy, Grayson's firebrand "Republicans want you to die" speech, and so on, and there was so much strange stuff in that mix that the only thing I could think of was, "Say no to drugs". That's about the only way I can explain last night's results, because otherwise, I'm at a complete loss as to understanding how the HELL anyone voted for and allowed David Vitter to win.
*Deep breath* Okay. Long-winded yammering over now. Hooray if you manage to read all this.
Angela
First off, the voting out of the Iowa judges really makes me want to cry . However, isn't there still a whole lot of crap the anti-gay crowd would have to go through in order to ultimately defeat the legalization of gay marriage? I'm no expert on how this stuff works, but anyone who has a bit more knowledge about it, enlighten me, I'd be interested to know just what else they have to do. Regardless, I'm certainly going to keep an eye on things related to that issue and fight like hell with all the means I have to stop the anti-gay crowd.
That does lead me to something else I found interesting, though. I was watching Rachel Maddow's show tonight and she was talking about this issue, as well as other ballot measures and such, that were defeated/approved, and I noticed a recurring theme kept coming up about "out of state interests" having a say in that stuff. Out of state interests were what helped push the "anti-activist judges" thing here, and of course, it's been active other times, too. And I'm kinda confused about that, because if we are leaving taking care of the issues up to each individual state, like so many insist it should be, then why exactly are people from other states trying to dictate who the judges for my state are and what they can vote on in regards to that issue (or any issue)? It's like when the Mormon church in Utah put all that money toward Prop 8 in California-you're in Utah, what the hell do you care what happens in California? Just further proof that the "let the states decide" mantra of conservatives is complete BS and confusing as hell.
What makes the decision about the judges all the more ironic is that for all the bitching about these three judges being "activists" (what exactly does that even MEAN?), two of them were appointed by a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, Mr. Branstad, who you guys just re-elected back to office! Make sense to anyone else? Yeah, didn't think so. Enough to make you want to bang your head against the nearest wall while screaming.
Oh, and Steve King is still around. Happy day for Iowa, indeed *Sigh*.
I disagree with socially conservative politics on basically every point: capital punishment, gay rights, abortion, etc.
I resent their almost unanimous conclusion that I'm an elitist non-American because I live in the northeast and support Democrats.
I'm insulted by their embrace and celebration of ignorance.
Ditto all of this, though I'd change the "elitist non-American" bit to, "I resent their almost unanimous conclusion that just because I live in 'middle America' naturally this means I'll be swayed by their borderline offensively patronizing small town, folksy, 'family values', rural babblings, and that I'll automatically fear those 'elitist big city people with their smooth-talking ways'."
The establishment will now go about muzzling the Tea Party and destroying any of their potential presidential candidates for 2012. Count on it.
Pretty much. The Republicans have a very delicate dance to do right now. On the one hand they'll want to try and continue to distance themselves from the crazier antics of the party, but if they don't listen to them, that won't help them among the voters (and I will quite frankly have absolutely NO problem saying, "I told you so" to the people who voted for them when that happens. You should've been paying better attention, guys, sorry. You get what you voted for).
As depressing as much of last night's news was, I can still manage to see a potential silver lining in all of this. Nathan was absolutely right in saying the Republicans are something of a gift for Obama and the Democrats. Aside from the potentially destructive Tea Party/Republican Party merger/battle, having the Republicans there might light a fire under the Democrats and get them motivated to fight harder. If a miracle actually does happen and the Republicans DO learn to work with the Democrats, well, then, hey, fantastic . I'm not betting on that happening, but who knows. Plus, other presidents have had strong oppositions and managed to win re-election, so I'm not too worried about Obama's chances in that department for 2012.
(Personally, I'd love to see Obama go up against the Republicans the next two years the way he went at them at that retreat back in January. That would be awesome)
Obama has been campaigning with driving metaphors.
"You put your can in D to go forward
and R to go backwards."
Well, I'm waiting for a pundit to say he got his driver's license revoked.
Really, no kidding, I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet. I was watching most of the election coverage on my local CBS affiliate last night, but I saw clips from CNN-the hell was with that gaggleful of people in their headquarters? Seriously... Also, did anyone hear O'Reilly's bit about advising kids not to watch MSNBC because Democrats might be committing suicide there or things of that sort? Real charming, that. Idiot. Nice song choice from Jeannieco as well. I will never be able to hear that song the same way again, thanks to that sanity rally .
Despite all the wins that I wish hadn't happened, I am thrilled to death to see that O'Donnell, Angle, and Paladino lost their races. That was definitely some bright news. And deep mentioned the Colorado ballot stuff-the personhood amendment, the UFO thing-good to see that Colorado's still as loopy a state as ever . Kinda surprised to see that the marijuana measure lost in California-what's with that state lately, you guys are losing your uber-liberal status! Quite honestly, I wish pot were legal simply because if it was, last night's results would have had a LOT less anger attached to them. Then again, though, I saw a clip tonight talking about all the crazy ballot measures and bizarre comments from various politicians like Angle, the Arizona governor (whom I'm so happy to hear is still going to be governor, that's just great), or Paladino, Boehner supporting the Nazi dress guy, Grayson's firebrand "Republicans want you to die" speech, and so on, and there was so much strange stuff in that mix that the only thing I could think of was, "Say no to drugs". That's about the only way I can explain last night's results, because otherwise, I'm at a complete loss as to understanding how the HELL anyone voted for and allowed David Vitter to win.
*Deep breath* Okay. Long-winded yammering over now. Hooray if you manage to read all this.
Angela