2010 - U S Midterm Elections - opinions - results - what now?
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Canadiens1131
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So with a Republican majority in the House and Senate likely, let's move on to what we can expect from the next two years.
Obama will be vetoing anything drastic, such as trying to repeal the healthcare legislation, so it will be two years of gridlock and stagnation and a lot of finger-pointing at the executive branch on the part of the right. Something along the lines of, "we're trying to legislate and you're stopping it"; a fairly hypocritical tack considering the first two years of Obama's presidency.
The Republicans may have the ability to block funding for the healthcare legislation when the new federal budget has to be hashed out, so we may still see a Second Great Healthcare Showdown in Congress.
What kind of shape the Republican Party is in running up to 2012 will be interesting to see. How will the Tea Party base handles being treated like a dirty whore and kicked to the curb post-election? Hint: ask the religious right how they deal with this every post-election.
Obama will be vetoing anything drastic, such as trying to repeal the healthcare legislation, so it will be two years of gridlock and stagnation and a lot of finger-pointing at the executive branch on the part of the right. Something along the lines of, "we're trying to legislate and you're stopping it"; a fairly hypocritical tack considering the first two years of Obama's presidency.
The Republicans may have the ability to block funding for the healthcare legislation when the new federal budget has to be hashed out, so we may still see a Second Great Healthcare Showdown in Congress.
What kind of shape the Republican Party is in running up to 2012 will be interesting to see. How will the Tea Party base handles being treated like a dirty whore and kicked to the curb post-election? Hint: ask the religious right how they deal with this every post-election.
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1. I don't think the GOP will get 51 in the Senate.
2. Marco Rubio does well on a stage and knows how to campaign, look for him to be on a national ticket and draw broad support.
2. Marco Rubio does well on a stage and knows how to campaign, look for him to be on a national ticket and draw broad support.
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Obama has been campaigning with driving metaphors.
"You put your can in D to go forward
and R to go backwards."
Well, I'm waiting for a pundit to say he got his driver's license revoked.
"You put your can in D to go forward
and R to go backwards."
Well, I'm waiting for a pundit to say he got his driver's license revoked.
the iron horse
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My dream would be that Libertarians would get 51 in the Senate.
If the GOP win tonight, that would be much better than the alternative.
"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe."
~Thomas Jefferson
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Your dream, the country's nightmare...
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Holy fuck, Republicans are just the worst.
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Some of these Tea Party GOP are close to Libertarian. Paul, Rubio talk the talk.
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I disagree with socially conservative politics on basically every point: capital punishment, gay rights, abortion, etc.
I resent their almost unanimous conclusion that I'm an elitist non-American because I live in the northeast and support Democrats.
I'm insulted by their embrace and celebration of ignorance.
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Feingold loses to GOP Tea Party novice Ron Johnson
kramwest1
has a
-their bullshit claims of individual liberty (except when it comes to your own body or what you do privately in your home).
-their claim of fiscal responsibility (except when it comes to helping their President hide the cost of two wars from the budget and therefore the deficit and debt).
-their wanton worship of large corporations over small businesses and entrepreneurs (and now of Corps. over the individual with the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling).
Agreed, (most) Republicans are the worst.
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Michele Bachmann GOP Tea Party favorite wins re-election.
Perhaps she will get a chairmanship and can start to subpoena some trouble makers.
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The new speaker of the House, Rep John Boener from Ohio is giving his victory speech. He is talking about the American Dream. He is crying, now.
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he's been crying since he was a kid
with a name like that
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Toomey defeats Sestak.
Canadiens1131
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If there is one real tragedy tonight, it's the fact that that gushing, preening, disgusting waste of DNA is going to continue to help legislate in Washington.
She's like Palin, except many people take her seriously, which is a very dangerous thing.
EDIT: But let me tell you what I reeeeeally think.
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The GOP also took the Governor office in a razor close election.
plus the GOP took 3 House seats from the Dems.
If the same young people that went to the polls for Obama in 08 went today much of this would not have happened.
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Give em HELL, Harry !!!
Tea Party chose Reid as their number one target.
He wins.
Tea Party chose Reid as their number one target.
He wins.
PhilsFan
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If only there had been as much advertising for registering to vote as there was for actually voting, I'd have been on this one.
HBK-79
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Are you saying that voter turnout (especially among young people, blacks, Latinos, etc.) DOES make a difference?
One of my former co-workers (who is black) told me that Obama would win again especially if the turnout is good.
(I posted about that before, but that was months and months ago.)
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Hey, they weren't ignorant of the registration process, that much is clear.
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Who, old people? Sure, they got me on that, I guess. They can add that on the list after "Sarah Palin not pronouncing countries names properly" and "Christine O'Donnell guessing what that darned Constitution's all about."
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nathan1977
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You realize this attitude is part of the problem, right?
Clearly this is a board that has a lot of issues with conservatives. However, one doesn't need to have much historical knowledge to see that both Reagan and Clinton became more effective Presidents with an opposition party running Congress. I'm not convinced we'll have two years of obstructionism. Had the GOP taken the Senate, there would be a more conflicting ideology at work (as well as a clearer mandate), but I think that Obama can (and probably should) be a centrist at this point. If he can govern effectively from the middle, he can move the country in a progressive direction -- and may actually regain some of the favor he's lost in the public's eye.
Canadiens1131
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No, I've seen her way too much in the media and she is currently my least favourite politician. I have a special kind of dislike for her.
Obama tried governing from the middle by leaving healthcare up to Congress to hash out. He's been governing from the middle for the entire first half of his term, alienating some in his own party.
Only after that long, hot summer of Republican fear-mongering that left the HC bill out in the sun to stink up the joint did Obama begin to drop the bi-partisan approach and slowly begin to creep toward partisan politics. More recently he's been slipping more and more into taking pot shots at congresisonal Republicans, basically taking the bait and playing right into their hands. It has made his administration look petty and frustrated at their efforts for reform being stymied so effectively by the opposition's PR machine.
Before the healthcare fiasco, though, the guy has always been pragmatic and centerist. He's an inspiring speaker, but when you get down to brass tacks he's warm oatmeal, steady and measured. This is a guy who's even holding support for gay marriage back as a bargaining chip, you realize.
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nathan1977
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Still. Wanting someone out of office is one thing; calling them a waste of DNA is another...
nathan1977
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Oh, I don't disagree; I think he has been trying to govern from the center for the past two years, but has been undercut by some within his own party who believed they had more of a mandate than they actually did. These elections, if anything, may pave the way for him to govern according to his principles. If anything, the Republicans have given him a gift. If he can govern from the center and they reject it, they'll get their own thumping come 2012; if they get their act together and are willing to be collaborative, he might actually pass the legislation he wants (immigration reform, etc), rather than simply fighting a holding position on health care.
It will be a very interesting next two years.
