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Old 11-03-2010, 02:51 PM   #121
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I think he's toast depending upon the opponent-and the unemployment rate
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:02 PM   #122
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I'm worried about 2012, but I think the predictions of Obama losing are way premature. Some of the talking heads last night were saying Obama will still win simply because it's going to be like 1996 where the Republicans have no one who can win.

Romney? Huckabee? Palin? Somebody else? Somebody we haven't heard of yet?
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I'm worried about 2012, but I think the predictions of Obama losing are way premature. Some of the talking heads last night were saying Obama will still win simply because it's going to be like 1996 where the Republicans have no one who can win.

Romney? Huckabee? Palin? Somebody else? Somebody we haven't heard of yet?
2012 is really still his to lose. The economy is still on the slow upswing, and given the results of yesterday, the electorate will probably be annoyed with the tone of congress for the preceding 2 years.

The Republican dark-horses for 2012 are Jeb Bush, Newt Gingrich and Tim Pawlenty--not great candidates, but better than the current leading crop.
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:28 PM   #124
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That's the thing....McCain was a weak candidate in 2008 and they don't even have anyone in the wings of his calibour.
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:44 PM   #125
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:47 PM   #126
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Once again Republicans get swallowed up by latino voters in the SW.

I bet if Obama makes immigration reform a big issue for 2012, the Republicans only have a marginal amount of room to ramp up intensity. Harry Reid's victory suggests there's a lot of untapped potential there.
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That's the thing....McCain was a weak candidate in 2008 and they don't even have anyone in the wings of his calibour.

McCain was the best possible candidate in 2008.

2008 was all about Bush fatigue. The American people were sick and tired of Bush.

McCain was best positioned to be the anti-Bush in the GOP.
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:00 PM   #128
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All I know, as someone who would prefer to see the Dems in power, I'm rooting for
Sarah Palin 2012
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Go get em, girl!

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Old 11-03-2010, 04:01 PM   #129
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If she is in the GOP primaries, it will be good for the GOP.


I remember when Jessie Jackson ran in the 80s,
he fired up a good portion of the Dem base. Even though he did not get the nomination.
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:23 PM   #130
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2012 is really still his to lose. The economy is still on the slow upswing, and given the results of yesterday, the electorate will probably be annoyed with the tone of congress for the preceding 2 years.
What about the youth vote, the black vote, the Asian vote, and the Latino vote?

All I hear from my friends is that Obama will win again as long as the turnout in those demos is strong.
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What about the youth vote, the black vote, the Asian vote, and the Latino vote?

All I hear from my friends is that Obama will win again as long as the turnout in those demos is strong.
I'm sorry I wasn't clearer.

I was saying that I think he will be reelected. The economy should be good by then, and as long as he doesn't fall prey to some Republican bullshit trap in the next 2 years, he'll win. Voters should be sick of hearing crap from Congress, which could/should make Obama the voice of reason for the next 2 years.
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If the economy is on its way back and unemployment is going down , Obama will win. If its the same as today or worse, he will lose.

It sounds fairly simple, because it is.
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UFOs will continue to go unstudied in Denver.

Initiative 300 is just one of many ballot measures that voters were tasked with deciding on Tuesday, and was also one of many that failed to pass.

The measure, which would have created a seven-member UFO Committee to study the mysterious objects and their extraterrestrial occupants, only managed to pull 16% of the vote.


Read more: Failed ballot measures: Denver won't study UFOs; Rhode Island's name stays the same
Government cover up.

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Colorado's second effort to define "personhood" in an amendment which would have banned all kids of abortion, as well as forbidden stem cell research and some kinds of birth control, was also voted down.

The controversial measure lost overwhelmingly, 70% against to just 30% in favor.


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frozen embryos are persons and have rights, isn't that in the 14th amendment?

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Rhode Island, meanwhile, will keep its name.

In a battle that's lasted nearly two decades, efforts to get "State of Rhode Island and Providence Slave Plantations" shortened to just Rhode Island failed to gain enough support from the electorate, earning just around 71,000 votes.

More than 250,000 opposed the measure.


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They should change the name to "Rhode" it is not an island.

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California's Proposition 19, which would have legalized the sale of marijuana, lost by nearly 500,000 votes. Efforts to okay cannabis use for medical purposes may join it, with measures in Arizona, South Dakota and Oregon all failing.

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all three pot measures fail
it's in the Bible, people have been getting stoned, like for eva.

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Oklahoma also passed a measure that would keep judges from using Islamic law when deciding cases. The iniative was meant as a "pre-emptive strike" to keep activist judges from "legislating from the bench or using international law or Sharia law," according to its sponsor, Republican Rex Duncan.

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so I can't stone my wife of myself?
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Once again Republicans get swallowed up by latino voters in the SW.
I haven't looked at those numbers, but the GOP elected two Hispanic governors in the SW yesterday.
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:30 PM   #135
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Voters should be sick of hearing crap from Congress, which could/should make Obama the voice of reason for the next 2 years.
Which is why I think Nevada last night might be a blessing in disguise. Reid (still very unpopular) will continue to be the face of the Democratic Party in Congress. If he lost, the Dems would have Angle to demonize every other moment, and they'd have some new blood in the leadership spot. We'll have to see how much damage, if any, Reid does to Obama's numbers. If nothing else, his unpopularity may put Nevada in play for 2012.
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