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Old 11-02-2010, 11:58 PM   #76
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he's been crying since he was a kid
with a name like that
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Toomey defeats Sestak.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:16 AM   #78
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If there is one real tragedy tonight, it's the fact that that gushing, preening, disgusting waste of DNA is going to continue to help legislate in Washington.

She's like Palin, except many people take her seriously, which is a very dangerous thing.

EDIT: But let me tell you what I reeeeeally think.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:34 AM   #79
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Toomey defeats Sestak.
The GOP also took the Governor office in a razor close election.

plus the GOP took 3 House seats from the Dems.

If the same young people that went to the polls for Obama in 08 went today much of this would not have happened.
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Give em HELL, Harry !!!




Tea Party chose Reid as their number one target.

He wins.
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The GOP also took the Governor office in a razor close election.

plus the GOP took 3 House seats from the Dems.

If the same young people that went to the polls for Obama in 08 went today much of this would not have happened.
If only there had been as much advertising for registering to vote as there was for actually voting, I'd have been on this one.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:52 AM   #82
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If the same young people that went to the polls for Obama in 08 went today much of this would not have happened.
Are you saying that voter turnout (especially among young people, blacks, Latinos, etc.) DOES make a difference?

One of my former co-workers (who is black) told me that Obama would win again especially if the turnout is good.

(I posted about that before, but that was months and months ago.)
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:00 AM   #83
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I'm insulted by their embrace and celebration of ignorance.
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If only there had been as much advertising for registering to vote as there was for actually voting, I'd have been on this one.
Hey, they weren't ignorant of the registration process, that much is clear.
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Who, old people? Sure, they got me on that, I guess. They can add that on the list after "Sarah Palin not pronouncing countries names properly" and "Christine O'Donnell guessing what that darned Constitution's all about."
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Locally, however, it's a different story. I'm about evenly split, with perhaps an edge to the Republicans for various state offices here in Ohio. I even ended up voting for Kasich though it galled me to do so.

He wins
and played Beautiful Day before his victory speech.
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that gushing, preening, disgusting waste of DNA
You realize this attitude is part of the problem, right?

Clearly this is a board that has a lot of issues with conservatives. However, one doesn't need to have much historical knowledge to see that both Reagan and Clinton became more effective Presidents with an opposition party running Congress. I'm not convinced we'll have two years of obstructionism. Had the GOP taken the Senate, there would be a more conflicting ideology at work (as well as a clearer mandate), but I think that Obama can (and probably should) be a centrist at this point. If he can govern effectively from the middle, he can move the country in a progressive direction -- and may actually regain some of the favor he's lost in the public's eye.
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Old 11-03-2010, 02:55 AM   #87
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You realize this attitude is part of the problem, right?
No, I've seen her way too much in the media and she is currently my least favourite politician. I have a special kind of dislike for her.

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but I think that Obama can (and probably should) be a centrist at this point. If he can govern effectively from the middle, he can move the country in a progressive direction -- and may actually regain some of the favor he's lost in the public's eye.
Obama tried governing from the middle by leaving healthcare up to Congress to hash out. He's been governing from the middle for the entire first half of his term, alienating some in his own party.

Only after that long, hot summer of Republican fear-mongering that left the HC bill out in the sun to stink up the joint did Obama begin to drop the bi-partisan approach and slowly begin to creep toward partisan politics. More recently he's been slipping more and more into taking pot shots at congresisonal Republicans, basically taking the bait and playing right into their hands. It has made his administration look petty and frustrated at their efforts for reform being stymied so effectively by the opposition's PR machine.

Before the healthcare fiasco, though, the guy has always been pragmatic and centerist. He's an inspiring speaker, but when you get down to brass tacks he's warm oatmeal, steady and measured. This is a guy who's even holding support for gay marriage back as a bargaining chip, you realize.
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3 Iowa justices removed after gay marriage ruling

that is very disappointing
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No, I've seen her way too much in the media and she is currently my least favourite politician. I have a special kind of dislike for her.
Still. Wanting someone out of office is one thing; calling them a waste of DNA is another...
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Obama tried governing from the middle by leaving healthcare up to Congress to hash out. He's been governing from the middle for the entire first half of his term, alienating some in his own party.

The guy has always been pragmatic and centerist.
Oh, I don't disagree; I think he has been trying to govern from the center for the past two years, but has been undercut by some within his own party who believed they had more of a mandate than they actually did. These elections, if anything, may pave the way for him to govern according to his principles. If anything, the Republicans have given him a gift. If he can govern from the center and they reject it, they'll get their own thumping come 2012; if they get their act together and are willing to be collaborative, he might actually pass the legislation he wants (immigration reform, etc), rather than simply fighting a holding position on health care.

It will be a very interesting next two years.
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