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Old 08-26-2008, 02:15 PM   #421
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I live in Michigan. I don't care what any polls say. I would put money on the fact that McCain won't win here; even if he picked Jesus as his running mate. Our economy is in the toilet. It's currently one of the worst in the entire nation. We haven't voted Republican since 1988, and with our state in the shape it is now; I doubt that will happen this year. Some of the most staunch Republicans that I know have said they're seriously considering voting for Obama because they feel McCain doesn't understand what's going on. I understand that it will be likely be close here, but I think hell would freeze over before McCain could win my state.
The Romney family is very popular in Michigan. All the polls right now are very close. I'm thinking Michigan is a lot like Ohio and Indiana, both likely Republican states this year. The economy is hurting, but the Democratic governor (I would imagine) is probably getting a lot of the blame. If Romney is the VP, I think they can pull off not only Michigan but the whole election.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:35 PM   #422
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Polls right now are meaningless.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:35 PM   #423
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do you really think two ungodly wealthy men are going to be able to speak with any sort of credibility about the Michigan economy?
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:37 PM   #424
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/\ hey - they are *godly* wealthy men.

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I live in Michigan. I don't care what any polls say. I would put money on the fact that McCain won't win here; even if he picked Jesus as his running mate.

I understand that it will be likely be close here
If you believe

it will be likely be close here

that suggest that it could go either way

looking at it pragmatically and not emotionally.


( and I do believe Jesus would help with the Catholic vote )
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:41 PM   #425
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the main motive for these hypothetical African-American voters staying home would be that they can't conscience voting for a party that failed to speak up when racist jibes were employed in the media (by Democrats no less) against one of its own candidates.

I was thinking about this the other day. (And I agree with you, yolland.) I was thinking how if this had been the case, if the same kinds of things had been said about Obama, and for the same reasons, I have a feeling that more people would have been outraged, and people may even have lost jobs and positions for saying such things. Now, keep in mind that I don't watch TV, and for sure don't read blogs and such, so I may not really have a true idea of what was said, but I think that people really are much more tolerant of gender-based insults and name-calling than they are of the race-based equivalent. We still have a long way to go as a nation.
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:27 AM   #426
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Romney: Biden Clips Are Worse Than Mine


August 26, 2008 4:19 PM

ABC News' Teddy Davis reports: Mitt Romney suggested Tuesday that criticisms he leveled at John McCain during the GOP primaries would not block him from becoming the Republican nominee for vice president, arguing that he never questioned his one-time rival's readiness to be president the way the Democratic nominee for vice president questioned Barack Obama.

"The clips that they have of Joe Biden," said Romney, referring to a McCain attack ad, "are ones in which he questioned Obama's readiness to be president.

"I didn't say that he was not qualified to become president," said Romney, referring to his criticism of McCain. "Republicans in our debates pointed out differences on issues and relative capacity. That's very different from saying that he is not qualified to be president."

The former Massachusetts governor downplayed the significance of his primary clashes with McCain following a Christian Science Monitor lunch with reporters. Romney was in Denver, Colo., as part of a broader Republican effort to frame Obama as "A Mile High and an Inch Deep."

Romney is scheduled to campaign for McCain on Wednesday in Henderson, Nev. His office has not, however, released details on where he will be on Friday when McCain is expected to announce the identity of his running mate at a large rally in Dayton, Ohio.

Asked where he would be on Friday, Romney told ABC News, "Still T.B.D."
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At least Biden didn't try and use his "sex appeal" when he ran for office the way Romney did when he ran for Gov


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Romney has sex appeal? I must have missed that day..
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Romney has sex appeal? I must have missed that day..
Hey not every man can be Dennis Kuncinich, ok?



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Sources say McCain has decided on his running mate, and will announce it Friday at 11 in Ohio.

I'm breathing a sigh of relief right now. There were rumors today that he would announce it tomorrow, which would be extremely stupid. As of now, Obama's gotten no bounce from Biden or from the convention thus far. No need to announce on Thursday.
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Sources say McCain has decided on his running mate, and will announce it Friday at 11 in Ohio.

I'm breathing a sigh of relief right now. There were rumors today that he would announce it tomorrow, which would be extremely stupid. As of now, Obama's gotten no bounce from Biden or from the convention thus far. No need to announce on Thursday.
Haha, sources now reporting that McCain has chosen Pawlenty.
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Haha, sources now reporting that McCain has chosen Pawlenty.
this is Gov. Pawlenty:

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Old 08-27-2008, 11:42 PM   #434
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Well, I heard it on MSNBC, but if something's on one network, it's only a matter of time before it's on the others. And I know you don't care for MSNBC, to put it nicely, but it's MSNBC, I don't think they'd go out of their way to report something like this about the Republican Vice-Presidency right in the middle of the DNC unless they were fairly sure about it.
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Well, I heard it on MSNBC, but if something's on one network, it's only a matter of time before it's on the others. And I know you don't care for MSNBC, to put it nicely, but it's MSNBC, I don't think they'd go out of their way to report something like this about the Republican Vice-Presidency right in the middle of the DNC unless they were fairly sure about it.

This will be interesting-for future credibility issues.

We should be certain by tomorrow afternoon, if there are secret service all around Gov P's home, or Mitt's.

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