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Old 08-23-2008, 07:43 AM   #316
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Old 08-23-2008, 08:32 AM   #317
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I like Biden, and he's a safe choice, but I don't know if he helps in procuring more votes for Obama. He's more to the left than Obama is, and is from an area of the country where Obama was most likely going to win anyway.

That said, if Obama wins, Biden will be a great VP.
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Old 08-23-2008, 08:54 AM   #318
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Old 08-23-2008, 09:33 AM   #319
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I think Obama/Biden is a tremendous ticket, and one worth fighting for.
I will say this. Of Kaine, Bayh, and Biden, (and Chet Edwards, I guess), Biden is the one I was most worried of.

Of course he does have downsides. Bayh or Kaine could have maybe brought in IN or VA, which will now likely go Republican I'd say. The northeast, except maybe NH, is safely Obama. And Obama is always talking about the war that should never have been authorized and waged, yet Biden voted to do just that. They'll have to explain that. Also, with the economy being the major issue in this campaign (43% vs. 11% National Security in a poll I saw), neither of them have great economic backgrounds. I think picking a governor could have better benefited him. Which is why I hope beyond hope that Romney gets chosen.
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Old 08-23-2008, 09:35 AM   #320
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and is from an area of the country where Obama was most likely going to win anyway.
Pennsylvania and Virginia are nearby, and are considered swing states in 2008. Biden is from Pa. originally and Tom Ridge of Pa. is considered a possibility for McCain's choice.
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John McCain lost to a talking chimpanzee 8 years ago.

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Old 08-23-2008, 10:22 AM   #322
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i think they chose Biden, among other reasons, because the guy has a talent for the fight.

there's much i admire about Obama, but he's simply not very good at taking visceral joy in the destruction of his opponents in the way the Clintons or the Bushes do.

Biden will rip into McCain, and that's what a VP is there for, and this abets the point i made earlier about the possibility of the return of the HRC-Bomb.

Obama needs a shit kicker.
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Why is Hillary subjecting herself to this vote? Does she know something we do not? Is she into self abuse, or does she have the votes for a very big surprise.
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Why is Hillary subjecting herself to this vote? Does she know something we do not? Is she into self abuse, or does she have the votes for a very big surprise.


they need catharsis!

ugh, women ...
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Old 08-23-2008, 10:58 AM   #326
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does McCain have any ads that aren't attacks?

i'm beginning to wonder.
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:05 AM   #327
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I've just read a lot on Biden as I wasn't familiar with his background, and he sounds like quite a man. I'm a bit excited!
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:32 AM   #328
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My friend got his text message at 3:16 am. I emailed him at 2:00 am with the pick and since I had a late night, I assume the info came out a while before I knew. That didn't work well.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:48 PM   #329
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That being said, it's not a horrible pick or anything which carries more weight than whether or not a gimmick worked.
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there she is.. dancin a jig I see!
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